Thanks to Everyone for your help.
It looks like my system is configured properly, only something is not
working, perhaps in the implementation. I have a SuSE 9.2 which I
installed last year, but I believe I have seen copyright notices
dating to 2003.
I know that 9.3 came out last year, and I think a friend of mine was
telling me that 9.4 was already available.
Only I don't have the time to make such frequent updates. For the
moment, I'll stick with my perl script. It's really no problem. In
fact, it's GRRRRREAT!
You know, I have Fedora on another partition. Maybe I'll give that a
try... Oh yeah, I did. It didn't work either, and the configuration
files were virtually identical.
Let's drink a toast... to the next version!
Cheers!
Joe
http://modern-greek-verbs.tripod.com/sarris/
On 5/10/06, Jan Willem Stumpel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Joe Schaffner wrote:
> After lengthy consideration, I have come to the conclusion xkb
> [..] only maps keyboard events to keysyms, which are not
> characters
Many of them really are just characters.
> I have these two keymaps i.e. "groups" on my system:
>
> /etc/X11/xkb/symbols/el -- The one I'm using
>
> /etc/X11/xkb/symbols/gr -- The dirty bastard
Isn't this dirty bastard /etc/X11/xkb/symbols/pc/gr? Which version
of X do you have?
> include "el(extended)"
This shows that you are really using both, because gr includes el.
BTW in newer versions of X there is no el, only the dirty bastard.
> key.type = "THREE_LEVEL";
>
> key <AD11> {[], [ dead_tilde, dead_diaeresis, dead_macron ]};
> key <AD12> {[], [ dead_iota, VoidSymbol, dead_breve ]};
>
> key <AC10> {[], [ dead_acute, dead_horn ]};
> key <AC11> {[], [ dead_grave, dead_ogonek ]};
>
> };
>
> I assume the list of keysyms captures the shifted state of the
> key i.e. <dead_acute> is on the semi-colon key and <dead_horn>
> is on the same key, shifted, the colon key.
Yes, and in the case of three-level keys, the third level is
accessed by the AltGr key (right-alt, most probably). So that's
how you get the dead macron etc.
Some keys might be four-level, in which case the fourth level is
accessed by means of Shift-AltGr.
> <dead_grave> is on the single-quote key and <dead_ogonek> is on
> the double-quote key.
>
> That's a pretty good layout. I like it.
>
> Why not name these keysyms <dead_psili> and <dead_dasia>?
Because these names are not known to "the system". However, all
UTF-8 characters are known to "the system" by default, having
names beginning with U. So the designer of this layout could, and
in my opinion should, have called them U0313 (for the dead psili)
and U0314 (for the dead dasia).
This would have avoided the need for a special Greek Compose file,
the existence of which is just a bother, ergo censeo delendam
esse. There already exists an international Compose file (it is
called the "US" file but it is really international), which serves
all languages, including ancient and modern Greek, and which knows
how to combine U0313 and U0314 with Greek letters and with other
accents.
> Anyway, I activate the gr keymap like this:
>
> setxkbmap "us,gr(polytonic)" -option "grp:alt_shift_toggle"
>
> The command syntax is troublesome. There seem to be other ways
> of doing it. Maybe I'm wrong, but it seems to work.
You can put the keyboard options in the X configuration file
(/etc/X11/xorg.conf, or /etc/X11/XF86Config-4).
> [..] Yes, I can enter greek characters. The <dead_acute> seems to
> work, but I am not sure if it is outputting a tonos or a acute.
> It's probably a tonos.
It should be, because having a separate acute is not considered
correct anymore. The fonts you use should display the tonos as an
acute. But if you really want to have the separate acute (oxia),
there are ways.
> None of the other dead keys seem to work.
>
> Any ideas?
All the dead keys can be made to work. It is not magic; it is not
even difficult. I apologise for blowing my own horn, but perhaps
you really should read the bits relating to "keyboard" and "Greek"
on http://www.jw-stumpel.nl/stestu.html.
> It would be nice to see the entire character map in the same
> place.
To get a picture of your character map (or maps, if you have
defined multiple maps) you could try
xkbcomp -xkm $DISPLAY
xkbprint server-0_0.xkm server-0_0.eps
The resulting file, server-0_0.eps, can be viewed with gv. This
xkbprint system seems a little bit flaky, though. You may have
difficulty actually printing the map.
Regards, Jan
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