The concept is the same. Many OS's running on a host, but the
functionality is not even in the same ball park.

A Plesk or cPanel VPS requires a specialized kernel and the
performance is not on par with what a say a Linux box running in XEN
or VMWare for example. While a distro might be optimized for running
in the virtual state it does not require a specially compiled kernel
to do so.

Also in a Plesk or cPanel environment it can be difficult upgrade
certain packages. Run a different version of php for example. Perl
modules were a PITA as i recall as well.  Its a completely different
user/admin experience between the two.

To my knowledge things like Plesk and cPanel do not allow easy
migration between hosts or access to additional resources on the fly.

-Chris

On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 2:31 PM, Peter Manis <[email protected]> wrote:
> I'm pretty sure that's not the case.
>
> On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 1:26 PM, Chris Louden <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> It should be noted that what is commonly referred to as a VPS and a
>> VM/Cloud Server are not the same thing.
>>
>> A VPS generally uses something like Plesk or cPanel. A VM/Cloud server
>> is considerably more versatile.
>>
>> -Chris
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 11:52 PM, Paul Saenz <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>> > I see that dreamhost secures the VPS for you. Now that looks like
>> > something
>> > I can use. I am going to look into dreamhost PS. This may be what I'm
>> > looking for.
>> >
>> > On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 9:37 PM, Paul Saenz <[email protected]>
>> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> okay, enough about cheep. I never said I wanted cheep web hosting. I
>> >> just
>> >> wanted to know if those companies were really offering what they
>> >> claimed to
>> >> be offering. Obviously, they are not being entirely honest. Now if I
>> >> compare
>> >> those prices to, say, $11.00 /mo. then it is no problem. I'd much
>> >> rather pay
>> >> the extra $7 /mo. to get something that I know what I'm getting. I'd
>> >> much
>> >> rather have a company tell me up front what I am really getting. So
>> >> this is
>> >> not about me getting web hosting for cheep. I just wanted to know if
>> >> they
>> >> were going to provide what they claim to provide.
>> >>
>> >> As for VPS, I would much rather do that, but I'm afraid that I don't
>> >> have
>> >> the knowledge at this point to secure a server. I would probably get
>> >> hacked
>> >> instantly, and then go through a crash course on security, which I
>> >> don't
>> >> have time for right now. As much as I'd love to do it, I don't think
>> >> that is
>> >> an option.
>> >>
>> >> Nevertheless, you guys have provided a great deal of knowledge that
>> >> gives
>> >> me a much better picture of what I am dealing with, so that I can make
>> >> an
>> >> educated guess. Especially Roger, who has helped me to realize that
>> >> even I
>> >> can compete in the web hosting arena.
>> >>
>> >> On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 8:23 PM, Jeff Lasman <[email protected]>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> On Thursday, September 23, 2010 01:57:21 am Paul Saenz wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> > Take a look at this web host review. Some of these companies claim
>> >>> > to
>> >>> > have
>> >>> > unlimited bandwidth and disk space for $3.50 per month.
>> >>> > The website also claims that ipage has a 72% positive customer
>> >>> > review.
>> >>> > Anyone care to comment on whether they believe these reviews are
>> >>> > really
>> >>> > accurate, or even close?
>> >>>
>> >>> As some (maybe most) of you know, I'm in the webhosting business.
>> >>>
>> >>> So I know a bit about how to do this.
>> >>>
>> >>> Read the fine print.  These companies all limit you based on machine
>> >>> resources
>> >>> you use.
>> >>>
>> >>> One of them (not necessarily reviewed on the link) has in their terms
>> >>> of
>> >>> service that you can't use them to store files; only for websites, and
>> >>> if
>> >>> they
>> >>> find files that aren't being accessed in what they call webhosting,
>> >>> will
>> >>> delete the files.  Yes, it's actually in the fine print of their terms
>> >>> of
>> >>> service.
>> >>>
>> >>> You do get what you pay for.
>> >>>
>> >>> Jeff
>> >>> --
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