No I understand the difference of what you were saying, but I have never heard anyone say something was not a VPS/VDS simply because it used a control panel to manage it. If it is a dedicated virtual instance then it is a VDS/VPS, how it is managed doesn't change that fact
You can classify a VPS as two types if you want, one with full access and one without, but you you wouldn't say a dedicated server managed by cpanel is not a dedicated server simply because it is not a dedicated server you manage via SSH, they are both dedicated servers. Just like a VPS is a virtual private server, and a VDS is a virtual dedicated server (same thing different name). Every VPS I have had is exactly what you have described a VM server as. The bottom line with any hosting company is you have to pay attention to what they are giving you and if that is what you want. On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 3:12 PM, Chris Louden <[email protected]> wrote: > The concept is the same. Many OS's running on a host, but the > functionality is not even in the same ball park. > > A Plesk or cPanel VPS requires a specialized kernel and the > performance is not on par with what a say a Linux box running in XEN > or VMWare for example. While a distro might be optimized for running > in the virtual state it does not require a specially compiled kernel > to do so. > > Also in a Plesk or cPanel environment it can be difficult upgrade > certain packages. Run a different version of php for example. Perl > modules were a PITA as i recall as well. Its a completely different > user/admin experience between the two. > > To my knowledge things like Plesk and cPanel do not allow easy > migration between hosts or access to additional resources on the fly. > > -Chris > > On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 2:31 PM, Peter Manis <[email protected]> > wrote: > > I'm pretty sure that's not the case. > > > > On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 1:26 PM, Chris Louden <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> > >> It should be noted that what is commonly referred to as a VPS and a > >> VM/Cloud Server are not the same thing. > >> > >> A VPS generally uses something like Plesk or cPanel. A VM/Cloud server > >> is considerably more versatile. > >> > >> -Chris > >> > >> > >> > >> On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 11:52 PM, Paul Saenz < > [email protected]> > >> wrote: > >> > I see that dreamhost secures the VPS for you. Now that looks like > >> > something > >> > I can use. I am going to look into dreamhost PS. This may be what I'm > >> > looking for. > >> > > >> > On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 9:37 PM, Paul Saenz < > [email protected]> > >> > wrote: > >> >> > >> >> okay, enough about cheep. I never said I wanted cheep web hosting. I > >> >> just > >> >> wanted to know if those companies were really offering what they > >> >> claimed to > >> >> be offering. Obviously, they are not being entirely honest. Now if I > >> >> compare > >> >> those prices to, say, $11.00 /mo. then it is no problem. I'd much > >> >> rather pay > >> >> the extra $7 /mo. to get something that I know what I'm getting. I'd > >> >> much > >> >> rather have a company tell me up front what I am really getting. So > >> >> this is > >> >> not about me getting web hosting for cheep. I just wanted to know if > >> >> they > >> >> were going to provide what they claim to provide. > >> >> > >> >> As for VPS, I would much rather do that, but I'm afraid that I don't > >> >> have > >> >> the knowledge at this point to secure a server. I would probably get > >> >> hacked > >> >> instantly, and then go through a crash course on security, which I > >> >> don't > >> >> have time for right now. As much as I'd love to do it, I don't think > >> >> that is > >> >> an option. > >> >> > >> >> Nevertheless, you guys have provided a great deal of knowledge that > >> >> gives > >> >> me a much better picture of what I am dealing with, so that I can > make > >> >> an > >> >> educated guess. Especially Roger, who has helped me to realize that > >> >> even I > >> >> can compete in the web hosting arena. > >> >> > >> >> On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 8:23 PM, Jeff Lasman <[email protected]> > >> >> wrote: > >> >>> > >> >>> On Thursday, September 23, 2010 01:57:21 am Paul Saenz wrote: > >> >>> > >> >>> > Take a look at this web host review. Some of these companies claim > >> >>> > to > >> >>> > have > >> >>> > unlimited bandwidth and disk space for $3.50 per month. > >> >>> > The website also claims that ipage has a 72% positive customer > >> >>> > review. > >> >>> > Anyone care to comment on whether they believe these reviews are > >> >>> > really > >> >>> > accurate, or even close? > >> >>> > >> >>> As some (maybe most) of you know, I'm in the webhosting business. > >> >>> > >> >>> So I know a bit about how to do this. > >> >>> > >> >>> Read the fine print. These companies all limit you based on machine > >> >>> resources > >> >>> you use. > >> >>> > >> >>> One of them (not necessarily reviewed on the link) has in their > terms > >> >>> of > >> >>> service that you can't use them to store files; only for websites, > and > >> >>> if > >> >>> they > >> >>> find files that aren't being accessed in what they call webhosting, > >> >>> will > >> >>> delete the files. Yes, it's actually in the fine print of their > terms > >> >>> of > >> >>> service. > >> >>> > >> >>> You do get what you pay for. > >> >>> > >> >>> Jeff > >> >>> -- > >> >>> Jeff Lasman > >> >>> Post Office Box 52200, Riverside, CA 92517 > >> >>> Our jplists address used on lists is for list email only > >> >>> Phone +1 909 266-9209, or see: > >> >>> "http://www.nobaloney.net/contactus.html"; > >> >>> _______________________________________________ > >> >>> LinuxUsers mailing list > >> >>> [email protected] > >> >>> http://socallinux.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/linuxusers > >> >> > >> > > >> > > >> > _______________________________________________ > >> > LinuxUsers mailing list > >> > [email protected] > >> > http://socallinux.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/linuxusers > >> > > >> > > >> _______________________________________________ > >> LinuxUsers mailing list > >> [email protected] > >> http://socallinux.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/linuxusers > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > LinuxUsers mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://socallinux.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/linuxusers > > > > > _______________________________________________ > LinuxUsers mailing list > [email protected] > http://socallinux.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/linuxusers >
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