Sorry, I actually did not see that you had already gotten the channel recovered yet when I wrote that.
On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 9:16 AM, William L. Thomson Jr. <[email protected]> wrote: > On Thu, 2011-03-31 at 05:07 -0400, Chad Bailey wrote: >> I thought I'd let you guys know that I do have extensive IRC >> administration experience and would be glad to contribute in the IRC >> channel in any way that's needed. I also learned programming by >> writing bots for irc lol so I'd be glad to get one started for the jax >> lug channel if that's something that would be of any interest. > > I thought about a but, but not like we have a bugzilla or direct need. > Maybe to query google at best, but we could do that on our own. Not sure > a bot is necessary. As for having IRC experience if you want to be a > channel operator. I do not have a problem with that, and would likely > welcome such. There is not much to do now, but as the channel grows, > that might change. > Just willing to contribute, if needed. What I can do to contribute wont be known if I don't make it known heh. >> I do have experience operating cameras and doing live productions with >> video switch boards etc so if that would come in handy at all I'd be >> glad to contribute there as well. I don't immediately see how it would >> be applicable to the needs of the jax lug though. > > I don't think there will ever be a video switching board when we go to > broadcast/record meetings. If/when that happens. Still some obstacles to > overcome and issues to address there. > I didn't see how it would be applicable either, but like I said before, just letting you guys know what I've got experience doing in the event it does become useful. >> A final thought is, we don't _have_ to use freenode as an irc server. > > I agree, but it is one of the most popular, if not the most popular. > Gentoo and Ubuntu use it primarily. As well as countless other projects, > xen, radeon, tomcat, and many others just to name a few. The other one > would be oftc, where Debian and others reside :) > Yea, I wouldn't have said this had I not realized the channel was already recovered. Freenode isn't horrible, but i'm not real crazy about it. It has become sort of the open source irc go to place (which was the intent when creating it). When it was first created it was the best of the best, now it's just another irc network that happens to host open source software channels. What I mean by this is typically the amount of bots, spam, netsplits, etc you see. None of that existed while lilo was in control, I really don't understand how he managed to do it so well, but he did. This was at a time when there were 30K+ users as well, so it's not necessarily a load thing either. Sure there are more like 80K now, but the problems began when lilo left. This is only my opinion, I don't want to begin any type war with anyone who likes freenode or their staff. >> Perhaps one of us could even host an ircd at irc.jaxlug.org. > > No I doubt that will ever happen. FYI Gentoo used to run some chat > servers, and it was to much of a pain to deal with. Rather leave that up > to others who deal with the IRC networks already. > Wouldn't have mentioned it had I realized the channel was already recovered. I also don't see the need for creating one. Should it ever become necessary I've ran many ircd's before. It's not bad so long as you dont get punks with botnets trying to screw with you. Typically not an issue unless it's a larger network. Having said that, I dont see the need for having to maintain an ircd when we can use existing irc networks. >> I'm not >> real crazy about freenode once they lost lilo. Lots of people thought >> lilo was a bad person because of his donation spending habits, but I >> have never met a better IRC administrator, ever. > > Pretty sure he passed away no? Can't really fault them for that ;) > Yes, he was hit by a car unfortunately. He apparently mismanaged the funds donated which has left a bitter taste for many people. I'm not bitter about it, think he did an awesome job myself. Any time I had an issue I could send him a message directly and he usually responded very quickly. Not many people share my thoughts on that unfortunately. Agree or disagree with his raise for funds, having him as a full time administrator of the network made it flow better than *any* irc network i've ever been on. Here's a wikipedia article outlining some more information. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rob_Levin And this linked article shows the negative attitude people had towards him. http://www.theregister.co.uk/2003/01/29/buy_a_piece_of_net/ Granted all of the information in the article may be true, the way it was presented was very derogatory and I believe was one of many contributers to people not liking lilo that knew nothing about him. >> He's missed by me for sure, and I think anyone who's been a part of >> freenode long enough knows that the way it's ran now is completely >> inconsistent with its initial direction. > > I haven't seen much change in the ~5 or so years I have been on there. > Though I can't say I pay much attention to how Freenode operates, just > that its there and I can access the channels I need to for work and > other purposes. > It's been about 5 years since he passed. I'm not real sure how it's ran right now to be honest. I'm glad freenode is still around giving a place for open source projects to congregate. Not that the place is horrible or anything, just the administration is not nearly the caliber it used to be (in my opinion). >> With regard to what day to have it on, I have a crappy job in the >> sense that I have no guarantee of my schedule, so I can not really say >> what a good day or time would be for me. The only guaranteed day I >> have off is sunday, and I'm not so sure I'd even want to do it on >> sunday so no input on that subject. > > Well there will always be conflicts and not everyone can make it to ever > meeting for a variety of reasons. If we get around to recording stuff, > that will become less of an issue. Though don't want people using the > excuse about watching a recording of the presentation as reason not to > attend :) > Hah, good point. I will make an attempt to continue to make it to meetings but do have some adjustment coming up with moving and etc not looking forward to it. > -- > William L. Thomson Jr. > Obsidian-Studios, Inc. > http://www.obsidian-studios.com > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > Archive http://marc.info/?l=jaxlug-list&r=1&w=2 > RSS Feed http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/maillist.xml > Unsubscribe [email protected] > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- Archive http://marc.info/?l=jaxlug-list&r=1&w=2 RSS Feed http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/maillist.xml Unsubscribe [email protected]
