On Thu, 31 Oct 2002, Paul Makepeace wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 30, 2002 at 04:38:12PM -0500, Chris Devers wrote: > > On Wed, 30 Oct 2002, << everyone >> wrote: > > > << PHP is crap >> > > I don't think PHP is crap. > > I am also amused and puzzled at the people writing huge tracts on why > PHP is crap while not at the same time acknowledging there are vastly > more websites written in PHP doing useful things for lots of people than > there are in perl -- witness the scrabbling to find even remotely > interesting success story cases for Perl (what recent ones have there > been?). I suspect more revenue is generated from PHP sites than Perl > sites. As a corollary, there are less (by some metric) experienced > people writing more web software in PHP than in Perl. PHP gets you sooo > much more with the same amount of effort than with perl. PHP is > fundamentally quite easy, the learning curve astonishingly flat. Hardly > the case for perl. The learning curve to writing *bad* PHP is really flat. The learning curve to writing good, secure, scalable PHP I would suggest is much steeper and longer, because the language itself, and also the user community (and so the support and resources available) is so geared to writing quick-hack code. Just look at the user comments on the PHP manual. I'm sure there are people writing good PHP out there - the Horde and IMP stuff I was quite impressed with - but they are lost in the noise of people arguing the PHP equivalents of 'use strict is gay' over and over. > "Worse" is "better". Indeed. Perhaps there's a lesson there - but I'll stick to my Lisp Machine, thanks. Chris.