On Thu, Oct 31, 2002 at 09:27:14AM +0000, Greg McCarroll ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 
wrote:
> * Chris Andrews ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> > 
> > The learning curve to writing *bad* PHP is really flat. The learning curve
> > to writing good, secure, scalable PHP I would suggest is much steeper and
> > longer, because the language itself, and also the user community (and so
> > the support and resources available) is so geared to writing quick-hack
> > code. 
> 
> Which was the state of Perl *plucks figure out of the air* 4 years
> ago. However during this time we've seen great advances in the way
> people develop in Perl. Off the top of my head I'd suggest the major
> forces in this advancement are (and this is imho),

[snip]

>       * YAPC
>         YAPC conferences have meant there are a low cost alternative
>         to TPC, meaning that people can still meet with their peers
>         and learn from talks/tutorials even if they can't afford TPC.

At a lower level, I'd say the the Perl Mongers movement has also 
contributed a great deal in getting Perl programmers talking to each
other. For example, how many of your had met 5 other Perl programmers
before joining london.pm? I know I hadn't.

Dave...

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