On Sun, Nov 16, 2003 at 07:44:05AM -0500, Daniel Carrera wrote: > I must say that trying to figure out LTSP has been an exercise in > frustration. The website is difficult to browse. The HOWTOs are > anecdotal, un-professional, they display poorly on Mozilla and are > difficult to read.
Gee, and we're probably Ugly too! :-) Anyone who knows about Wolfram's wonderful theories should perhaps be more ready to accept parts of the world that are actually generated by the rules he has described - They generate wonderfully "chaotically appearing" patterns when seen from a distance....... Just like the real world. By the way - you misspelled the word "the" as "he" in the last line of your "bottles of beer" phrase. (Am I picking nits? Yes. Why? Because you're whining about how hard this is for you and how lousy a job a bunch of largely UNPAID volunteers are doing when the real problem is your lack of general knowledge about different computing architectures as well as the fact that MOST of what your complaining about is primarily subjective. Frankly the LTSP folks have done and continue to do a great job. (Just my subjective perspective :-) ) ) Ok - enough sniping at each other. Here I'll reach ALL the way out to my keyboard and go to google for you: LTSP is primarily about thin clients: (aka "diskless workstation") http://www.atis.org/tg2k/_thin_client.html thin client (computing): A server-centric computing model in which the application software, data, and CPU power resides on a network server rather than on the client computer (s). Note 1: This computing philosophy allows administrators to purchase one relatively powerful and expensive server and be confident that any external terminal, regardless of its power or sophistication, can run applications on the server. Most "shopping" Web pages, for example, are thin-client applications (i.e., the client needs nothing more than a browser and a connection to the network to be able to search the "shopping" page and to order products). Local area networks can use thin-client modeling to install only one copy of necessary programs onto the main server for many clients on the network to use. Note 2: Server software is required to interface clients with the software on the server. Synonyms Internet appliance (computing), Internet box (computing), network computer. This HTML version of Telecom Glossary 2K was last generated on Wed Feb 28 15:39:21 MST 2001. References can be found in the Foreword. > > The main page is a gignatic mass of text which appears to have no real > content. > > I have read much of the documentation and I have gained very little > understanding of LTSP. I don't know the hardware requirements, or how it > actually works. How it actually works is superbly well explained step by step here in the "Theory of operation" section of the LTSP 3.0 Documentation: http://www.ltsp.org/documentation/ltsp-3.0-4-en.html#AEN53 See also at the The Linux documentation project: www.tldp.org http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/Linux/docs/HOWTO/other-formats/html_single/Thinclient-HOWTO.html http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/Linux/docs/HOWTO/other-formats/html_single/Remote-Boot.html LTSP CLIENT HARDWARE REQUIREMENTS - any X86 pc with a PCI bus, 32 MB of RAM, (more as always, is better), a NIC, and a floppy drive (An etherboot NIC eliminates the need for the floppy drive), keyboard, mouse, monitor should have PII or PIII cpu - 200 MHZ or better. LTSP SERVER REQUIREMENTS: Any X86 PC with a large chunk of ram (How much is needed is still subject to lively debate), A good fast disk, and at least one NIC, but two is better. Mouse, keybd, monitor are optional after installation is completed. Net Layout: Client 1 --| Client 2 --| Client 3 --|------ethernet to LTSP server NIC 1--| Client . --| | Client . --| | Client N --| | | | |-----------------| | | LTSP Server |-----------| | | | | | | | | |-----------------| | ethernet from LTSP Server NIC 2 to rest of LAN, or internet, enterprise router - what have you. > It would be good to have a high-level explanation of how to actually > set up a network with LTSP instead of hiding the main concepts behind a > sea of details. Details are certainly necessary, but I also need a > high-level understanding of LTSP before the details can make sense. > > It doesn't help me to know that your workstation has a Linksys LNE100TX, > version 4.1 card. What I need to know is whether the workstation has to > be a full computer or not. Can I get by without a hard drive? Do I need > a floppy drive? What the heck is etherboot? > > I'd like a high-level explanation of what goes on at the workstation end. > In particular, I need to know what new hardware we would have to buy to > get LTSP working. Currently we have Solaris workstations. I'd like to > know what we can reuse, and what we need to buy anew. > > Best, > -- > Daniel Carrera | Aleph-0 bottles of beer on the wall, Aleph-0 bottles > PhD student. | of beer. Take one down, pass it around, Aleph-0 > Math Dept. | bottles of beer on he wall... > UMD, | http://mathworld.wolfram.com/Aleph-0.html > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF. Net email is sponsored by: GoToMyPC > GoToMyPC is the fast, easy and secure way to access your computer from > any Web browser or wireless device. Click here to Try it Free! > https://www.gotomypc.com/tr/OSDN/AW/Q4_2003/t/g22lp?Target=mm/g22lp.tmpl > _____________________________________________________________________ > Ltsp-discuss mailing list. To un-subscribe, or change prefs, goto: > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/ltsp-discuss > For additional LTSP help, try #ltsp channel on irc.freenode.net > -- Jeff Kinz, Open-PC, Emergent Research, Hudson, MA. [EMAIL PROTECTED] copyright 2003. Use is restricted. Any use is an acceptance of the offer at http://www.kinz.org/policy.html. Don't forget to change your password often. ------------------------------------------------------- This SF. Net email is sponsored by: GoToMyPC GoToMyPC is the fast, easy and secure way to access your computer from any Web browser or wireless device. Click here to Try it Free! https://www.gotomypc.com/tr/OSDN/AW/Q4_2003/t/g22lp?Target=mm/g22lp.tmpl _____________________________________________________________________ Ltsp-discuss mailing list. To un-subscribe, or change prefs, goto: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/ltsp-discuss For additional LTSP help, try #ltsp channel on irc.freenode.net
