No worries kurup theres no legal angle to it besides as far as ISP loyalty is concerned We nether face east nor west we consumers face forward gud de
Hmk ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hari Kurup" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Linux Users Group Uganda" <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, April 09, 2005 10:11 AM Subject: Re: [LUG] GMAIl now at 2GB > Henry, maybe I needed to have put a disclaimer: Any opinions expressed > or implied by me do not neessarily reflect the views of Infocom or its > management. > But that said, I have not seen anyone on this list from that ISP you are > on.... except for one sympathiser (names withheld). :-) > Have a nice weekend. > > Kurup > > > Henry wrote: > > >Ok I get it > >ISPs wont give us the broadband we want unless we justify the need to them > >They will even go so far as to tell us how much we can have and what we > >cannot afford ;-) > >Sounds a lil like the fixed lines of a utl a couple of years ago > >But all in good spirit > >I now realize it takes a combined effort from several players > >And that takes for a consumer "culture" to develop > > > >Enter the universities > >Put broadband at the universities ( there are so many nowadays!) > >They will want it for the rest of their working lives > >And a broadband culture will be born. > > > >Hmk > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: Mark Tinka [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 11:16 AM > >To: [email protected] > >Cc: Henry > >Subject: Re: [LUG] GMAIl now at 2GB > > > >On Friday 08 April 2005 09:50, Henry wrote: > > > > > >>>And it is not cheap, even if it is local bandwidth. A reasonably clear > >>> > >>> > >>audio stream (forget video) needs like 32Kbps for each person > >>streaming. > >> > >> > > > >Not necessarily, depends on what codec you use (which would depend on what > >hardware you use). In some cases, the right player can help a great deal. > > > >Quality is getting better with smaller pipes. > > > > > > > >>Ive learnt that Cheap is a relative term mfriend > >>The user decides which conveniences are worth paying for > >>Besides, you don't halt a project to build a 4 star hotel just because > >>there are cheaper alternatives ;-) > >> > >> > >> > >>>Who pays for it and why would someone pay anyway when he can pick it > >>> > >>> > >>freely on his radio > >> > >>1- An available forum for specialized channels > >>Eg: click on a button and get a replay for the capital gang show you > >> > >> > >missed > > > >This is on demand content - which is how the Internet works today. A website > > > >will be there today, tomorrow and the next day, nothing new. > > > >Putting up the audio clip may not cost the radio stations much, depending on > > > >whether they are offering it as a download or a stream. Besides, lots of > >streaming/hosting companies in the developed world can offer you a T-1 > >connection for your content for less than $50/month. > > > > > > > >>2 - bcuz its there! Why shouldn't I use the company Bandwidth to view > >> > >> > >clips > > > > > >>of a local football match while the boss accesses footage of his marketing > >>seminars, ( while we work ) > >> > >> > > > >Because like Kurup said, it costs your company. If the game you missed is on > > > >an international server, your company (and your provider) have to expend > >expensive international capacity to bring the game to your PC. > > > >If the game were on a local server, well, that's another thing. > > > >ISP's are wary of "greedy customers", and may penalize your company on your > >behalf for abuse of service. But I digress... > > > >Mark. > > > > > > > >> > >> > >>-----Original Message----- > >>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf > >> > >> > >Of > > > > > >>Hari Kurup > >>Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 9:58 AM > >>To: Linux Users Group Uganda > >>Subject: Re: [LUG] GMAIl now at 2GB > >> > >>On Apr 7, 2005, at 6:39 PM, Henry wrote: > >> > >> > >>>Isnt the onus on the providers to show the people what they can do > >>>with the > >>>service > >>>Way the mobile operators keep telling us how we can check for the > >>>weather > >>>and stuff on our fons? > >>> > >>>Eg: Don't you think radio/ tv operators would love for people to stream > >>>local talk shows onto their computers at home and office ? > >>>But who would dare to venture into such a "complex" process unless > >>>they had > >>>someone from MTN, infocom .. to hold their hand for the first few > >>>sessions > >>> > >>> > >>They radio/tv operators certainly would be interested. > >>But as opposed to picking the signal off air with your TV or radio for > >>free, streaming requires bandwidth. > >>And it is not cheap, even if it is local bandwidth. A reasonably clear > >>audio stream (forget video) needs like 32Kbps for each person > >>streaming. > >>Who pays for it and why would someone pay anyway when he can pick it > >>freely on his radio. > >> > >> > >>Kurup > >> > >>_______________________________________________ > >>LUG mailing list > >>[email protected] > >>http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/lug > >>%LUG is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ > >> > >> > >>_______________________________________________ > >>LUG mailing list > >>[email protected] > >>http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/lug > >>%LUG is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ > >> > >> > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > >LUG mailing list > >[email protected] > >http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/lug > >%LUG is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > LUG mailing list > [email protected] > http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/lug > %LUG is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ > _______________________________________________ LUG mailing list [email protected] http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/lug %LUG is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/
