Henry Maybe a little lesson in economics, ISP's network operators etc exist to make money. Charities NGO's etc are philanthropic organizations whose business is to GIVE to either those who cant afford to pay or wont pay. Lesson over.!!
Now after internalizing that Kampala is one of the few African cities with fiber reaching/passing over 50% of it's major buildings. What has not happened yet is the creation of product or service to use this up. Both MTN and UTL are now in advanced stages of deploying what they call the NGN however to realize the full potential of this service content will have to exist, they are not equipped to create that content(repetition). Today One2net has deployed in central kampala a broadband wireless network capable delivering 10Mb to each subscriber (Plug) however we are delivering 32kbps 64 and 128kbps, are working on streaming content, been running an MPEG4 stream at 1 mg. Need to feel the other 9 ASK NOT WHAT THE OPERATORS CAN GIVE YOU ASK HOW YOU CAN WORK WITH THEM TO DELIVER TOMORROWS SOLUTIONS COST EFFECTIVELY -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Henry Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 5:58 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [email protected] Subject: RE: [LUG] GMAIl now at 2GB Ok I get it ISPs wont give us the broadband we want unless we justify the need to them They will even go so far as to tell us how much we can have and what we cannot afford ;-) Sounds a lil like the fixed lines of a utl a couple of years ago But all in good spirit I now realize it takes a combined effort from several players And that takes for a consumer "culture" to develop Enter the universities Put broadband at the universities ( there are so many nowadays!) They will want it for the rest of their working lives And a broadband culture will be born. Hmk -----Original Message----- From: Mark Tinka [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 11:16 AM To: [email protected] Cc: Henry Subject: Re: [LUG] GMAIl now at 2GB On Friday 08 April 2005 09:50, Henry wrote: > > And it is not cheap, even if it is local bandwidth. A reasonably clear > > audio stream (forget video) needs like 32Kbps for each person > streaming. Not necessarily, depends on what codec you use (which would depend on what hardware you use). In some cases, the right player can help a great deal. Quality is getting better with smaller pipes. > > Ive learnt that Cheap is a relative term mfriend > The user decides which conveniences are worth paying for > Besides, you don't halt a project to build a 4 star hotel just because > there are cheaper alternatives ;-) > > > Who pays for it and why would someone pay anyway when he can pick it > > freely on his radio > > 1- An available forum for specialized channels > Eg: click on a button and get a replay for the capital gang show you missed This is on demand content - which is how the Internet works today. A website will be there today, tomorrow and the next day, nothing new. Putting up the audio clip may not cost the radio stations much, depending on whether they are offering it as a download or a stream. Besides, lots of streaming/hosting companies in the developed world can offer you a T-1 connection for your content for less than $50/month. > > 2 - bcuz its there! Why shouldn't I use the company Bandwidth to view clips > of a local football match while the boss accesses footage of his marketing > seminars, ( while we work ) Because like Kurup said, it costs your company. If the game you missed is on an international server, your company (and your provider) have to expend expensive international capacity to bring the game to your PC. If the game were on a local server, well, that's another thing. ISP's are wary of "greedy customers", and may penalize your company on your behalf for abuse of service. But I digress... Mark. > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > Hari Kurup > Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 9:58 AM > To: Linux Users Group Uganda > Subject: Re: [LUG] GMAIl now at 2GB > > On Apr 7, 2005, at 6:39 PM, Henry wrote: > > Isnt the onus on the providers to show the people what they can do > > with the > > service > > Way the mobile operators keep telling us how we can check for the > > weather > > and stuff on our fons? > > > > Eg: Don't you think radio/ tv operators would love for people to stream > > local talk shows onto their computers at home and office ? > > But who would dare to venture into such a "complex" process unless > > they had > > someone from MTN, infocom .. to hold their hand for the first few > > sessions > > They radio/tv operators certainly would be interested. > But as opposed to picking the signal off air with your TV or radio for > free, streaming requires bandwidth. > And it is not cheap, even if it is local bandwidth. A reasonably clear > audio stream (forget video) needs like 32Kbps for each person > streaming. > Who pays for it and why would someone pay anyway when he can pick it > freely on his radio. > > > Kurup > > _______________________________________________ > LUG mailing list > [email protected] > http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/lug > %LUG is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ > > > _______________________________________________ > LUG mailing list > [email protected] > http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/lug > %LUG is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ _______________________________________________ LUG mailing list [email protected] http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/lug %LUG is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ _______________________________________________ LUG mailing list [email protected] http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/lug %LUG is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/
