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henry wrote:
No worries kurup theres no legal angle to it besides as far as ISP loyalty is concerned We nether face east nor west we consumers face forward gud deHmk ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hari Kurup" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Linux Users Group Uganda" <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, April 09, 2005 10:11 AM Subject: Re: [LUG] GMAIl now at 2GBHenry, maybe I needed to have put a disclaimer: Any opinions expressed or implied by me do not neessarily reflect the views of Infocom or its management. But that said, I have not seen anyone on this list from that ISP you are on.... except for one sympathiser (names withheld). :-) Have a nice weekend. Kurup Henry wrote:Ok I get it ISPs wont give us the broadband we want unless we justify the need tothemThey will even go so far as to tell us how much we can have and what we cannot afford ;-) Sounds a lil like the fixed lines of a utl a couple of years ago But all in good spirit I now realize it takes a combined effort from several players And that takes for a consumer "culture" to develop Enter the universities Put broadband at the universities ( there are so many nowadays!) They will want it for the rest of their working lives And a broadband culture will be born. Hmk -----Original Message----- From: Mark Tinka [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 11:16 AM To: [email protected] Cc: Henry Subject: Re: [LUG] GMAIl now at 2GB On Friday 08 April 2005 09:50, Henry wrote:And it is not cheap, even if it is local bandwidth. A reasonably clearaudio stream (forget video) needs like 32Kbps for each person streaming.Not necessarily, depends on what codec you use (which would depend onwhathardware you use). In some cases, the right player can help a great deal. Quality is getting better with smaller pipes.Ive learnt that Cheap is a relative term mfriend The user decides which conveniences are worth paying for Besides, you don't halt a project to build a 4 star hotel just because there are cheaper alternatives ;-)Who pays for it and why would someone pay anyway when he can pick itfreely on his radio 1- An available forum for specialized channels Eg: click on a button and get a replay for the capital gang show youmissed This is on demand content - which is how the Internet works today. Awebsitewill be there today, tomorrow and the next day, nothing new. Putting up the audio clip may not cost the radio stations much, dependingonwhether they are offering it as a download or a stream. Besides, lots of streaming/hosting companies in the developed world can offer you a T-1 connection for your content for less than $50/month.2 - bcuz its there! Why shouldn't I use the company Bandwidth to viewclipsof a local football match while the boss accesses footage of hismarketingseminars, ( while we work )Because like Kurup said, it costs your company. If the game you missed isonan international server, your company (and your provider) have to expend expensive international capacity to bring the game to your PC. If the game were on a local server, well, that's another thing. ISP's are wary of "greedy customers", and may penalize your company onyourbehalf for abuse of service. But I digress... Mark.-----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On BehalfOfHari Kurup Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 9:58 AM To: Linux Users Group Uganda Subject: Re: [LUG] GMAIl now at 2GB On Apr 7, 2005, at 6:39 PM, Henry wrote:Isnt the onus on the providers to show the people what they can do with the service Way the mobile operators keep telling us how we can check for the weather and stuff on our fons? Eg: Don't you think radio/ tv operators would love for people to stream local talk shows onto their computers at home and office ? But who would dare to venture into such a "complex" process unless they had someone from MTN, infocom .. to hold their hand for the first few sessionsThey radio/tv operators certainly would be interested. But as opposed to picking the signal off air with your TV or radio for free, streaming requires bandwidth. And it is not cheap, even if it is local bandwidth. A reasonably clear audio stream (forget video) needs like 32Kbps for each person streaming. Who pays for it and why would someone pay anyway when he can pick it freely on his radio. 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