Dear Anthony and all, yes - but would he use it to thumb his way through his own Fantasia 50 or through "La Compagna"? Leaving the question aside if the identification with Francesco is convincing or not - I think that too many things going on on the fingerboard mean not so many opportunities for using your thumb and if you do, you will make it difficult for the other fingers of the left hand to do their job properly. All best, Joachim "Anthony Hind" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb:
Le 30 nov. 06 à 15:52, [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit : Dear Anthony and all,at the moment I do not (becaused at the moment I am playing mainly a ten-course instrument) and when I came to the lute I tried to avoid using the left thumb at all, but: it had worked well for me on folk and rock guitar (early nineteenth-century guitar tutors are said to know this technique, too) and I later learned that Ganassi mentions it. I suspect it works very well in chordal accompaniments (and possibly in a rendering of "Anji" on the six-course lute) but I would avoid it when playing Francesco ...Thank you JoachimBut about Francesco, in the painting postulated by some to be of him (by Giulio Campi, 1525, Pinacoteca Civica, Como), there he is with his thumb "cocked" in the ready position (see http://le.luth.free.fr/renaissance/index.html, look at collumn 4 line 3). I think it may have been argued that this could be a protrait of him in Lute Festival 2004 Lectures by Mariagrazia Carlone, Portraiture of Sixteenth-Century Lutenists, (see the juxtaposed comparison between this and a known portrait at : http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~lsa/old/Cleveland2004/Portraits.html#top).but I may be mistaken, and this may not be his playing position.All the bestAnthonyAll best,Joachim "Anthony Hind" <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb: > Dear All > In Lute News N=B079, P.25, we can read that "The January 2006 (Vol > 24, N=B0 05) issue has a paper on the technique of using the left > thumb, over the edge of the neck (seen > in some renaissance lute paintings)" and often seen in folk guitar > techniques. I suppose the article in question was "All Fingers and > Thumbs" by Yehuda Schryer (that I have not read). > The Iconography on a web page run by Jean-Marie Poirier shows this > clearly (http://le.luth.free.fr/pouce/index.html). Several members of > the French lute list have suggested that this might only have been on > relatively narrow-necked 5 to 6 course lutes with a semi-circular > section (rather than the later wider flatter necks). It has also been > suggested that on the lowest courses the diapason and octave would > have been very close together, to assist in this "thumb-blocking". > > It almost seems as though the neck-shape is intended to fit ;in to the ; > curve of the hand for this technique. > However, I would like to ask if any of you actually hold this type of > lute in this way, and whether you adopt this thumb over diapason > technique. > Anthony > > > > -- > > To get on or off this list see list information at > http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html > > -- Dr. Joachim Lüdtke Frühlingsstraße 9a D - 93164 Laaber Tel. +49-+9498 / 905 188 -- Dr. Joachim Lüdtke Frühlingsstraße 9a D - 93164 Laaber Tel. +49-+9498 / 905 188 --
