But, if that content cannot be independently accessed by a blind individual, then it's value to us decreases significantly. Donna On Jan 20, 2013, at 10:47 PM, Karen Lewellen <klewel...@shellworld.net> wrote:
> consider asking for a supervisor Alex, it is a Holiday down there tomorrow > smiles. > Still it is support that the claim regarding described content being > virtually nonexistent made by the blinditv people is very wrong. > I feel sure the list is older, it goes back to early October of last year. > the link from the aCB site which I can post too lists things by the day, but > it is a google drive application. > I can share the link anyway though if there is interest . > Karen > > On Sun, 20 Jan 2013, Alex Hall wrote: > >> Thanks for the lists. I'll have to call up Time Warner tomorrow and see what >> they have to say regarding enabling described content, then test it out >> Tuesday when Big Bang Theory is on (as that's the only show on the list that >> interests me). Who knows, they might have more content available now, though >> I doubt that the Syfy channel makes it into the top tier. >> On Jan 20, 2013, at 11:35 PM, Karen Lewellen <klewel...@shellworld.net> >> wrote: >> >>> Okay, >>> last one tonight. a tiny bit of data and I do mean tiny. >>> >>> The 21st Century Communications and Video Accessibility Act of >>> 2010 reinstates the FCC's involvement in providing rules for >>> video description. Under the rules, affiliates in the top 25 >>> markets and the top five-rated cable networks will have to >>> provide at least 50 hours of video described programming per >>> quarter, starting July 1, 2012.^[8] >>> >>> this translates into at least 4 hours per week. >>> Now, this is only a swift listing and is slightly dated. >>> You will note that TBS has big bang theory in reruns, given this >>> list was about 3 months into the rules it makes sense that CBS would be >>> running them now too. >>> >>> ABC: >>> * Don't Trust the B---- in Apartment 23 >>> * Extreme Makeover: Home Edition >>> * Happy Endings >>> * Last Man Standing >>> * The Middle >>> * Modern Family >>> * Nashville >>> * The Neighbors >>> * Secret Millionaire >>> * Shark Tank >>> * Suburgatory >>> >>> CBS: >>> * Criminal Minds >>> * CSI: Crime Scene Investigation >>> * NCIS >>> * NCIS: Los Angeles >>> >>> Disney Channel: >>> * A.N.T. Farm >>> * Austin & Ally >>> * Doc McStuffins >>> * Dog With a Blog >>> * Fish Hooks >>> * Good Luck Charlie >>> * Gravity Falls >>> * Jake and the Never Land Pirates >>> * Jessie >>> * Little Einsteins >>> * Mickey Mouse Clubhouse >>> * Phineas and Ferb >>> * Shake It Up >>> >>> Fox: >>> * American Dad! >>> * Bob's Burgers >>> * Bones >>> * The Cleveland Show >>> * Family Guy >>> * The Following >>> * Glee >>> * Hell's Kitchen >>> * Hotel Hell >>> * Kitchen Nightmares >>> * MasterChef >>> * The Mindy Project >>> * New Girl >>> * The Simpsons >>> >>> NBC: >>> * 30 Rock >>> * Animal Practice >>> * Betty White's Off Their Rockers >>> * Chicago Fire >>> * Community >>> * Deception >>> * Go On >>> * Grimm >>> * Guys with Kids >>> * Law & Order: Special Victims Unit >>> * Parenthood >>> * Saving Hope >>> * The Office >>> * Parks and Recreation >>> * Up All Night >>> * Whitney >>> >>> Nickelodeon: >>> * The Backyardigans >>> * Bubble Guppies >>> * Dora the Explorer >>> * The Fairly OddParents >>> * Go, Diego, Go! >>> * Max and Ruby >>> * Mike the Knight >>> * Ned's Declassified School Survival Guide >>> * Rugrats >>> * Splatalot! >>> * Team Umizoomi >>> >>> TBS: >>> * The Big Bang Theory (reruns) >>> * Tyler Perry's For Better or Worse >>> * Tyler Perry's House of Payne >>> >>> TNT: >>> * The Closer >>> * Law & Order (reruns) >>> >>> Turner Classic Movies: >>> >>> * Various films, listed on WGBH's DVS page on TCM >>> >>> USA Network: >>> * Common Law >>> * Covert Affairs >>> * CSI: Crime Scene Investigation (reruns) >>> * Law & Order: Special Victims Unit (reruns) >>> * NCIS (reruns) >>> * NCIS: Los Angeles (reruns) >>> * Psych >>> * Royal Pains >>> * Suits >>> Again its dated, but see what I mean? >>> Karen >>> >>> On Sun, 20 Jan 2013, Alex Hall wrote: >>> >>>> At the risk of being off-topic, could you provide us with some popular >>>> shows that have audio description? Specifically, I enjoy Star Trek, Doctor >>>> Who, Star Gate (well, I would enjoy that one were it described), and the >>>> CBS show The Big Bang Theory. To my knowledge, none of these are ever >>>> described. If they are, I would love to know about it. I can figure out >>>> how to enable the descriptions if indeed there are descriptions to be >>>> heard, but I don't think these shows regularly air with any descriptions. >>>> Perhaps my cable company (TWC) would know, but I have never had much luck >>>> asking basic tech support about accessibility - they never seem to know >>>> what I'm talking about. I do agree that blind people cannot have it both >>>> ways, but exactly what are we supposed to do in the years it takes >>>> standard programming to become accessible? >>>> On Jan 20, 2013, at 8:52 PM, Karen Lewellen <klewel...@shellworld.net> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> depending on where you are, the source of your programming, your cable >>>>> provider or satellites provider is required to make that work for you. >>>>> In fact you can file an FCC complaint now if they do not. >>>>> Additionally, efforts going on to make those menus work easily will not >>>>> get much support if people are just going to circulate avenues to stolen >>>>> property. >>>>> And you wonder why the author's guild fears making books work? >>>>> What is keeping programs with audio descriptions from getting sponsorship >>>>> the way captioning does? >>>>> The attitude that those getting the description do not deserve to be >>>>> treated like the rest of the consumer marketplace. >>>>> They can and will just steal it and circulate it as if this is perfectly >>>>> fine. >>>>> You cannot have it both ways, either you deserve a respected place at the >>>>> audience market table regardless of how differently you view that table, >>>>> or you deserve the stolen crumbs from that table. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Sun, 20 Jan 2013, Devin Prater wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Thanks for that. If I can figure out how the menus on my TV work, I will >>>>>> certainly use what the FCC has provided. >>>>>> On Jan 20, 2013, at 7:32 PM, Karen Lewellen <klewel...@shellworld.net> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> you bet it really matters. >>>>>>> And yes they do. >>>>>>> As of July 2012, all five broadcast networks and the same cable >>>>>>> networks must provide audio described content, and they are doing i, >>>>>>> every single week. >>>>>>> all television stations in the top 25 markets stateside must provide >>>>>>> the content as well...with additional markets joining each year. >>>>>>> why should anyone invest in population who is simply going to steal >>>>>>> property. >>>>>>> cable providers and satellites providers must insure that you can >>>>>>> access the described content. >>>>>>> I do not have the link to post now, but program listings and details >>>>>>> are on the ACB website. >>>>>>> frankly I find this exclusionary and distasteful. >>>>>>> consumers who happen to score differently on an eye chart, must be >>>>>>> segregated to stolen property on the Internet Never mind that Hollywood >>>>>>> films and television shows air each week with described content. >>>>>>> are you so lacking in personal dignity that you feel stolen property is >>>>>>> all you deserve? >>>>>>> Especially since the entire thing could be done legally? >>>>>>> Is to some extent already. >>>>>>> No one is going to value you if you do not value yourselves, document >>>>>>> that there is a market, use what the FCC is doing to enhance the >>>>>>> ability for everyone to enjoy television as they choose. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Karen >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Sun, 20 Jan 2013, Devin Prater wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hmm. Does it really matter? No one else seems to provide this, do they? >>>>>>>> On Jan 20, 2013, at 7:03 PM, Karen Lewellen <klewel...@shellworld.net> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> ahem, >>>>>>>>> they do have the legal right to run this service with this content? >>>>>>>>> Karen >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Sun, 20 Jan 2013, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Are their any UK channels? Do you think we could have an IOS App so >>>>>>>>>> that we can watch this service anywhere we go and we're not tied to >>>>>>>>>> the computer? I like this service. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Kawal. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On 20 Jan 2013, at 07:51 PM, Devin Prater <d.pra...@me.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I do like this service. Its pretty good, I can finally watch >>>>>>>>>>> sci-fi, and therefore can watch star trek! :) >>>>>>>>>>> On Jan 20, 2013, at 12:49 PM, Matt Dierckens >>>>>>>>>>> <matt.dierck...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Hi folks, >>>>>>>>>>>> I have been given permission to post about this from another list. >>>>>>>>>>>> This is a great service. >>>>>>>>>>>> Check it out and please spread the word. >>>>>>>>>>>> Blindy.tv >>>>>>>>>>>> Have you ever wanted to watch TV with audio description but can't >>>>>>>>>>>> get the track on your tv? Well, now you can...sort of. Have a look >>>>>>>>>>>> at this. >>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.blindy.tv >>>>>>>>>>>> This project was created so that everyone could watch TV episodes >>>>>>>>>>>> with audio description. Every show (except the brain channel) has >>>>>>>>>>>> described content. You can switch channels just like with an >>>>>>>>>>>> actual TV. So far, >>>>>>>>>>>> their are 5 channels. Comedy, Drama, Si-fi, Brain and ETC. More >>>>>>>>>>>> may be added if needed. Each show is either 30 or 60 minutes long. >>>>>>>>>>>> After the show their are commercials (better than on TV, I can >>>>>>>>>>>> promise you that), a news segment or comedy skit, and some >>>>>>>>>>>> instrumental music at the top and bottom of each hour. >>>>>>>>>>>> To access this place, you can do one of two things: You can either >>>>>>>>>>>> go to the website linked above and used the web players, or, if >>>>>>>>>>>> you'd rather listen in your media player of choice, place this >>>>>>>>>>>> link into it. >>>>>>>>>>>> This will load all channels, and you can use the next and previous >>>>>>>>>>>> controls to move through the different channels. >>>>>>>>>>>> http://blindy.tv/all.m3u >>>>>>>>>>>> Please give any suggestions or criticisms you have. Feedback is >>>>>>>>>>>> always welcome. If you like the service, let us know. If you do >>>>>>>>>>>> not, tell us what we could do to fix it up. 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