Google's spam system--as published in their whitepaper some years 
ago--penalizes email when users mark the emails as spam. So if I mark that 
email as spam without reading it, then the next guy to get one like that is 
more likely to have the email end up in the spam bucket.


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Eric Henson
Server Team Manager
PFS
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-----Original Message-----
From: mailop [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Al Iverson
Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2016 2:38 PM
To: mailop
Subject: Re: [mailop] Multivariate Subject testing influences Gmail's filters?

I actually have seen lots of clients doing this, and have had nobody that I can 
remember complain of deliverability issues. I think it's fine and dandy to 
theorize, but nobody's shown any sort of specific proof that Gmail actually 
cares about using goofy symbols in subject lines or that they would degrade a 
sender's reputation based solely on the use of those. I would be surprised if 
somebody like Gmail, with tons of engagement and complaint data on hand, would 
do anything with this. The smart position would probably be more like, "let 
them send goofy symbols all day long as long as that's what subscribers want."
Barring any sort of data to the contrary, I'd be more focused on engagement and 
potential list hygiene issues. Something started sliding a few months ago. What 
changed then? New data source?
Reactivation of old data? Mailing frequency increased?

My gut feeling is that the issue is in the subscriber data and not in the 
subject line.

Cheers,
Al

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Al Iverson
www.aliverson.com
(312)725-0130


On Tue, Dec 13, 2016 at 3:14 PM, John Levine <[email protected]> wrote:
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> As others have noticed, TWSD.  So don't do that.
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