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"Dave Hooper" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> No offense Dave (seriously), but you either aren't using your 831
>> correctly, or you're not doing any sort of scientific comparison (i.e.
>> you're listening on different equipment and/or there are other factors
>> affecting the sound). The highest quality MP3 still doesn't sound as good
>> as a digital copy MD.
>
>OK . Here's the test I did and it's inCREDibly simple
>Granted it isn't particularly scientific, but that doesn't mean it should be
>debunked instantly.
>
>1. Put a blank MD in your Sharp831 recorder
>2. Connect the optical digital IN on the 831 to the optical digital OUT of
>the CD player
>3. Put in a good CD with lots of dynamics, quiet bits, and high frequencies,
>and if possible a little
> background noise. Something recorded live rather than overproduced, so
>something like A Minor Forest,
> Do Make Say Think or Mogwai, rather than Future Sound Of London
>4. Set to Rec-Pause and monitor to the audio coming out of the CD player
>source
>5. Record the track onto minidisc
>6. Play the track back.
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OK, but the problem is that all of the above is a CD vs. MD sound
comparison. I agree that MD doesn't sound as good as CD. However, your
original claim, to which I was responding, was that high-bitrate MP3
sounds better than MD.
>The 831 adds a layer of sparkly, burbling high frequencies to quiet
>passages and high frequencies .. in fact, if you record anything with
>a slight amount of background noise onto the 831 the background noise
>just sounds crazy and artificial like a load of bubbles bursting
>instead of dull white noise. DON'T come back at me by saying 'You
>should get a better CD collection if all the tracks have background
>hiss' because I'll just tell you where to go. That's my CDs, and the
>831 cannot encode them as well as a Aiwa model at half the price, or
>a Sony deck, or ...
As for the above paragraph (and this is completely unrelated to the
previous debate), I've never heard of any kind of "layer of sparkly,
burbling high freqencies" or the like when recording from CD to MD. The
MD never sounds as good on my equipment, but never because of such
"noise." To me that sounds like a problem with your recorder.
>>NO!! YOU ARE WRONG! because what you state below is a subjective
>>statement that has no meaning in reality. If you hear digital
>>artifacts so clearly with the MD copy, something is wrong with your
>>CD player or recorder. Sounds like a it may be a bad ADC.
You attributed the above quoting to me. I didn't write it.
> Dan said:
>> MD's recorded on a Sharp MS-702 (two to three years old) still sound
>> significantly better than the best MP3 encoding of today. You're welcome
>> to come over to my place and do a scientific comparison ;-)
>
>Can I? Do you live in the UK?
Sorry, California ;-)
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