50 years ago the stuff you wiped your butt with was a paper that did NOT 
break down to well in a wet envinronment and then came along companies like 
Georgia Pacific and about 30 years ago they developed a butt wipe paper that 
was designed to break down with moisture. Got any moisture in your 
crankcase? Now about 10 years ago a company named Oberg in Everett 
Washington came out with a fine screen filter that will stop particles that 
filters like Mann, Fram, Purcolator could only dream about slowing down. The 
filter worked so well that you had to have one with a tell tail light unit 
that told when the oil flow was slowing down due to the filters efficiency. 
I have seen race engines assembled in a clean room then set up on a engine 
dyno and shut down after a brief run because the Oberg unit was too 
efficient. The Oberg unit would remove small machine particle's, lint from 
hand towels used by the machinist/mechanics, stuff the hot tank chemicals 
did not get, well you get the idea. 
 Adios amigos Don in Mexico

 On 8/24/05, Kevin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
> 
> On Wed, Aug 24, 2005 at 02:15:11PM -0400, Marshall Booth wrote:
> > > TOILET PAPER FILTERS - what is everyone talking about?
> > > Real toilet paper or the Hengst fuel filters that look
> > > a bit like a roll of toilet paper? If the former, how
> > > do you do it?
> >
> > Filters that use toilet paper as the filter element have been available
> > for at least 50 years. They are VERY effective, but must be changed
> > rather frequently in most situations. They CAN provide excellent
> > filtering for fine (in the 1 micron range) particulate. They remove soot
> > beautifully (Mercedes disposes off soot by changing the oil). Using a TP
> > filter, one VW diesel owner did not CHANGE his Mobil 1 oil for 60kmi and
> > when it was finally changed it was still "honey" colored and the TBN had
> > not dropped more than about 50%. Problem was that he had to change the
> > filter at least every 2500 miles or the filter would occlude, and with
> > each filter change, a qt of fresh oil had to be added. The actual cost
> > for the 60kmi was only about $10-12 less than if he had change the
> > oil/filter in the conventional way - and there was the labor and
> > disposal problems of changing the filter every 2500 miles (24 times) for
> > 60kmi of driving.
> 
> I have one of these on one of my cherokees - a frantz oil filter. It is
> literally a roll of toilet paper as the element, but it's not paper I'd
> want anywhere near my bathroom, for fear that it got used. I think 1000 
> grit
> sandpaper would be more comfortable. The oil filter that the jeep was
> supposed to get is NLA, and the one that everyone tries to sell me rubs on
> the motor mount and leaks like a sieve as a result, so I have to use a
> cheesy FWD cadillac filter. The PO wasn't convinced that the caddy filter
> provided enough filtration.
> 
> *shrug*
> 
> To me, the toilet paper soaked in oil makes a great campfire starter in
> the desert. I'm looking forward to lighting off the one that got changed
> after the fuel pump diaphragm went and the pump started pumping gasoline
> in the oil :)
> 
> K
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