Can't argue with that one at all. I expect to be lied to. BillR -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gary Hurst Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2008 10:52 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 9/11 inside job? [was: GWB]
i guess after being lied to so much, i am overly suspicious of my "leaders". On Sun, Jun 29, 2008 at 10:28 PM, Bill R <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I am sure there are those in most any administration whose loyalty is not > to > "Truth, Justice, and the American Way", but to the party/people who they > believe will make the country better or stronger or make them more money > [take you pick - it's probably a mixture anyway]. Those are the really > dangerous ones. The zealots always are, because they are convinced they > are > doing the equivalent of 'God's work' and any damage done is excusable, be > they terrorists with a bomb strapped to themselves or political terrorists > who plan political campaigns or military commanders who don't take proper > care to keep ordinance out of civilian areas. Would I say that is too much > for GWB to have done? Yes, I would. Some misguided political zealots > [other than the 9/11 terrorists], possibly. Perhaps I am guilty of some > naiveté here, but if so I'll be one of those who lives more happily because > of it. I could not begin to counter such as you posit because I am not > willing to do what it would take to get that done. For me to live with > some > basic trust of people is necessary for my life, though it has had a cost. > I > suppose that like so many problems it comes down to greed. Greed for power, > for influence, for position or for financial gain, or even to be 'right' > more than others. I doubt we will agree on this stuff Gary, because you > can > see conspiracy in all the places it could possibly be, and I'm just not > willing to work that hard. The curse of being a moderate, I guess, and > probably of having spent a lot of years dealing with various local > emergencies/crisis that were not any different from normal life except for > some individual's hyper-focus on it. > BillR > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of Gary Hurst > Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2008 9:51 PM > To: Mercedes Discussion List > Subject: Re: [MBZ] 9/11 inside job? [was: GWB] > > would you put it past him? why wouldn't the group that manufactured iraq > also be capable of producing wtc? > > On Sun, Jun 29, 2008 at 9:46 PM, Bill R <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > What he said. I'm pleased the government [at least the military] is > owning > > up to how messed up the war in Iraq has been, but that will never make up > > for the malignant stupidity that got us there. WTC might have been the > > best > > political thing that ever happened to GWB, but no matter how much I > dislike > > his administration I won't put that one on him. > > BillR > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > On Behalf Of LarryT > > Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2008 7:27 PM > > To: Mercedes Discussion List > > Subject: Re: [MBZ] 9/11 inside job? [was: GWB] > > > > You wrote <<it is easier to accept that the > > president and much of the federal government are totally incompetent>> > > > > The idea there was any conspiracy among a dozen or more govt agencies > to > > > > kill thousands of Americans & destroy the WTC and Pentagon is beyond > > reasonable belief. Those of us who watched in on TV will never forget > the > > sight. > > > > I have a hard time believing there was any incompetence. The 1st 2 > > planes hit within a few minutes of each other not allowing enough time > for > > anyone to do anything. The 3rd plane hit the Pa. farmland shortly later > > and > > > > the 4th was in the crosshairs of fighterplanes for its short flight time > > remaining. That the President and others who had to make the choice to > > shoot them down or not shoot them down seems like a normal hesitance > hoping > > against hope we would not be pushed into killing 200+ of our own people > by > > terrorists. > > > > I'm not a fan of GWB but some things are just plain silly. > > > > Larry T > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Alex Chamberlain" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: "Mercedes Discussion List" <mercedes@okiebenz.com> > > Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2008 6:59 PM > > Subject: [MBZ] 9/11 inside job? [was: GWB] > > > > > > > On Sun, Jun 29, 2008 at 1:22 PM, Gary Hurst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > >> the story is kind of silly. either we conclude that our president and > > >> everyone around him, as well as the entire air defense system, is > > >> completely > > >> inept or retarded or we conclude that it was an inside job. which > works > > >> best for you? > > > > > > This is the weakness in Occam's razor, isn't it? Other things being > > > equal, the simplest explanation is the best, but what's your > > > definition of "simplest"? For me it is easier to accept that the > > > president and much of the federal government are totally incompetent > > > than that shadow forces of some kind within the executive branch > > > planned and carried out that kind of deception on such a massive > > > scale. > > > > > > I'm not saying that sometimes conspiracy theorists aren't in fact > > > correct in their reasoning even though their explanation may at first > > > appear to be the one that is more complex and requires more > > > assumptions. Consider JFK's assassination. It is a simpler > > > explanation that there was a second shooter and therefore a cover-up > > > of some kind than that the laws of physics were temporarily suspended > > > so that the shots Oswald fired could behave in a way no bullet had > > > done before or has since. Like Sherlock Holmes said, when you > > > eliminate the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must > > > be the truth. > > > > > > Alex Chamberlain > > > > > > _______________________________________ > > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > > > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > _______________________________________ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > _______________________________________ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > _______________________________________ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > _______________________________________ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > _______________________________________ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com _______________________________________ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
