I bought my '97 4WD crew cab F250HD 7.3 P/S in '06 and paid about 10-11K for 
it. It had 104K mi. on it at the time. It will pull or carry pretty much 
anything I need, gets 15-17 mpg unless towing something heavy like my 6 ton 5th 
wheel. Why anyone would pay 50-60K for fru-fru is beyond me!

Greg

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From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Curley 
McLain via Mercedes
Sent: Friday, January 19, 2018 11:21 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Cc: Curley McLain
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Major disappointment

The  $50,000 to $60,000 peekups with all the "luxury" trim/interior such 
as the frod "platinum" "limited" "SVT Raptor" and "King Ranch"   are 
what I classify as wussywagons.   They are not meant for work, but to 
show off the owners wealth or to stroke the owners ego, or to satisfy the wife 
while doing one of the former..  The "platinum" is definitely trimmed to sell 
to the female market.  To be fair, pretty much all cars, MB included are 
targeted at the female market.  There may be some argument about the king 
ranch, but with a price tag over $50,000, leather steering wheel cover, heated 
seats, etc, it definitely has options that fall into the wussy category.  Each 
of these would be competing with a MB/nissan pickup.

I am not picking on frod, because GM, dodge, toada and nissan all offer 
products with similar fru-fru.  I am more familiar with their trim levels.

When you compare the $50k-60k wagens to the $27k ford F150 XL, can you honestly 
tell me a "limited or "platinum" is worth twice as much 
money?   Will they get twice as much MPG?  Will they last twice as 
long?  Will they carry twice as much?  Do they have some combination of the 3 
that justifies being worth twice as much?

The gummit meddling in the vehicle market has driven people away from cars and 
into peekups.  The carmakers are not stupid.  they are just capitalizing on the 
weaknesses of people and what their gummit has taxed/regulated them into.

> Randy Bennell via Mercedes <mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com> January 19, 
> 2018 at 10:40 AM
>
>
> What would you consider to not be a wussywagon? A Unimog?
> I cannot see myself doing long trips at highway speeds in one of those.
>
>
> I suggest that the 4WD 1/2 ton crew cab pickups are the best thing 
> since sliced bread. Basically, a big sedan with a huge trunk. Haul 
> people and/or loads of lumber etc and pull a trailer behind too if 
> need be. The biggest disadvantage is parking them.
>
> I don't need 3/4 ton capacity so not much point in hauling the extra 
> weight around. Would consider a diesel if I needed it and could 
> justify it but I cannot.
>
> RB

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