I'm super pleased with my Battery Minder. The batteries in the Pisten Bully 
were pretty much flat when I tried to start it back in December. I hauled them 
home and gave each 24 hours on the Minder in maintenance (desulfate?) mode and 
24 hours on the dumb charger at 6 amps. I don't remember what size they are but 
they're big, like you'd have in a diesel Mercedes.
Back in the machine they worked perfectly, especially the night we had a 
plugged fuel screen and had to crank on it a lot to reprime the system.
At the end of the season I'll put them on the Minder for a week each. I did 
that with the ASV before the season started. Shoulda done the Bully too but 
nobody asked.

-Curt

    On Sunday, February 14, 2021, 6:11:54 PM EST, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes 
<mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:  
 
 Power was out here from about 0700 to noon, probably caused by an ice storm.  
I was unaware of that until I got to my kitchen and heard the generator 
running.  That (15KW Generac) LP-fired standby generator was nice to have then 
but there are costs.  

I think the equipment was about $3500 (in 2005) but the install was part of a 
bigger project so I don't have a number for that.  LP is pretty clean but I 
still do an annual oil and filter change.  The start battery has died several 
times without much warning and battery acid damaged allowed the case to rust.  
I'm using a Battery Minder now, maybe that will help.  

At very light load the output frequency is just over 63 Hz which causes many 
UPS systems to revert to battery power (beep-beep-beep) and deplete the 
battery; APC Smart UPS are more tolerant.  

I have an underground 500 gal LP tank (which only holds 400 gal) that should be 
good for a couple of days.  An above-ground thank would be cheaper and would 
let ne switch LP suppliers; but SWMBO said no to above-ground.  

Overall, I have no complaints but frankly, the few recent power outages didn't 
justify the expense.  However, long power outages were very common previously 
and SWMBO would not be able to manage a manual system (I traveled for work in 
those days).

For short outages, an 8-10 KW (electric start) gasoline generator should do the 
job much cheaper.  The plug-in output cord can be wired to a power panel with a 
mechanical interlock fairly inexpensively (if code allows).  The main drawback 
of this setup, IMO, is storing gasoline and keeping it fresh. 



-----Original Message-----
From: Mercedes On Behalf Of Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2021 4:27 PM
To: Okie Benz <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
Cc: Dan Penoff <d...@penoff.com>
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Blizzard

It does make life far easier and less likely to be interrupted. Big up front 
cost, though, if you do it right.

-D

> On Feb 14, 2021, at 4:24 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
> Being that we are total electric here, I should get a backup generator one of 
> these day. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Feb 14, 2021, at 3:15 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> That reminds me, it’s about time to check the propane tank for my 
>> annual fill for the standby generator…
>> 
>> -D shoveling sun and a little bit of rain today in the near 80s
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Feb 14, 2021, at 4:12 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>>> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Blizzard is proceeding, temp is 7 outside with wind chill is -10, 
>>> snow blowing outside. Heat pump pretty much runs non stop. Over the last 30 
>>> minutes the power has been going out off and on. No good. I may end up 
>>> having to haul in some firewood and firing up the fireplace/insert. It 
>>> would Most definitely cut down on the heat pump useable but by the time you 
>>> pay for firewood I don’t think it would be any cheaper. I keep firewood 
>>> around for use in the case of emergency.
>>> 
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