No LOCAL emissions - their total emissions from harvesting the raw
materials to generating the electricity to charge them is higher than a
Mercedes Diesel.

On Thu, May 26, 2022 at 4:36 PM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> EV have no emissions when driven so that's the benefit.
>
> On Thu, May 26, 2022 at 4:03 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > I read an article recently about the massive amount of diesel fuel burned
> > to run the equipment to mine the minerals to make 1 EV battery. Not to
> > mention the soil that must be moved. For the last 30 or 40 years they
> > should have developed more nuclear power and figured out something else
> > besides electric battery powered cars.
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> > > On May 26, 2022, at 2:31 PM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > EVs are for pussies!
> > >
> > > Sent from my iPhone
> > >
> > >> On May 26, 2022, at 3:07 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> 6-8 mile commutes are where an EV excels. Electric heat means the
> > cabin is warm quickly and you don't need to worry about range.
> > >> Curt
> > >>
> > >> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
> > >>
> > >> On Thu, May 26, 2022 at 11:31 AM, Allan Streib via Mercedes<
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:   As I understand it, the important thing
> > with Blue Tec is that the DPF "regeneration" cycle needs time to
> complete.
> > If it's frequently interrupted, you eventually have problems. I don't
> know
> > how long a cycle takes, or if 6-8 miles of driving is enough time. Kevin
> > posted a writeup a while back on someone's woes with Bluetec.
> > >>
> > >> It's not great for any car, gas or diesel, to not get fully warmed up.
> > You really want to get the engine oil and exhaust fully warm to drive out
> > moisture. That said, a 6-8 miles drive twice daily is probably OK
> > especially if some of it is at highway speeds and you're doing occasional
> > longer drives. You might be better off with a gasser though, or (heaven
> > forbid) even an EV for a commute that short.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>>> On Thu, May 26, 2022, at 10:59 AM, Donald Snook via Mercedes wrote:
> > >>> I have been out of the MB diesel game for too long and can’t keep up
> > on
> > >>> the nomenclature and which ones to avoid.
> > >>>
> > >>> If I was looking for a Mercedes diesel that would get 30+ mpg and is
> > >>> pretty reliable which would I look for?
> > >>>
> > >>> I know the 124 diesel with the 2.5 (602?) is great.  And the 603 is
> > >>> very good too. (Right?)
> > >>>
> > >>> The 606 in the 124 and 210 is also good?
> > >>>
> > >>> Then, the CDI started and the Black Death is a big concern and the
> > blue
> > >>> tec is next.  Someone mentioned the other day that bluetec has its
> own
> > >>> issues — most notably it is not good for relatively short drives like
> > a
> > >>> 10 minute commute.  It really needs to be driven for a while to get
> > >>> everything heated up and working.
> > >>>
> > >>> My cars now get driven to work only 6-8 miles one way. Half of that
> is
> > >>> on the highway - obviously not for long.  Then relatively short trips
> > >>> on the weekend. occasionally we drive long distances over a weekend
> > 600
> > >>> miles or so maybe every few months.
> > >>>
> > >>> So, if I want a fuel efficient MB diesel that doesn’t have to be
> > driven
> > >>> 30 minutes at a time, should I be focused on 124 and 210 with the
> 602,
> > >>> 603, and 606?
> > >>>
> > >>> What was the six cylinder non-turbo that was in the 124 and 210? I
> > >>> remember hearing great things about those.
> > >>>
> > >>> Donald H. Snook
> > >>>
> > >>>
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