But it’s not really going green is it after the environmental damage from mining the elements for the batteries and the petroleum used to produce the batteries, solar panels, and related equipment.
Sent from my iPhone > On May 27, 2022, at 11:56 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes > <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > This is my position. I’m more than wiling to “go green” if it makes good > financial sense. At present and for the foreseeable future, it doesn’t. > That’s whether it pertains to cars or stationary power systems. > > -D > >> On May 27, 2022, at 12:51 PM, G Mann via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> >> wrote: >> >> In the interest of a reality check on that thought, consider this. >> 1. Since you would not be able to do a grid tie to the solar panels, you >> would not receive any government matching funds for purchase and install of >> the solar rack. Your cost for a 10KW solar array would be, approx, $15,000. >> 2. You then need an enclosed and vented space for a battery bank [insert >> cost per sq. ft of house area.] >> 3. You then need to purchase and maintain a battery bank. Estimated $8 to >> $10,000, with cables and racks. >> 4. Now, a solar controller, to control battery bank charging and inverter >> to control car charging. Estimate, $8 to $10,000 for that equipment. >> Which gives rise to the question: "Does $8 per gallon for diesel sound so >> bad in comparison, or are you truly committed to "Go Green via an EV"? >> >>> On Fri, May 27, 2022 at 7:20 AM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes < >>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >>> >>> Putting aside the environmental and international economic and security >>> issues associated with lithium batteries and PV panels, I like the idea of >>> a garage with PV panels to charge your car. Of course you would need >>> storage batteries in your garage to collect and store the electrons from >>> solar photons so you can charge your car at night. The whole process should >>> be on the order of maybe 8% efficient if you’re lucky. >>> >>> --FT >>> Sent from iFōn >>> >>>> On May 27, 2022, at 4:31 AM, mitch--- via Mercedes < >>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> When I first heard of ZEVs, I thought "Oh, you mean Remote Emissions >>> Vehicles". >>>> Mitch. >>>> >>>>> On 2022-05-26 17:24, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote: >>>>> And I don’t want to start the back and forth up, but the electricity >>>>> to charge those batteries has to come from somewhere, and it’s likely >>>>> generated using fossil fuels at present. >>>>> So the emissions are going to come from somewhere in the process, just >>>>> not from a tailpipe on the car in this case. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________ >>>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>>> >>>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>>> >>>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >>> >> _______________________________________ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > _______________________________________ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > _______________________________________ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
