I just saw this regarding the life of the battery in a Prius: "According to Wrightgrid <https://www.wrightgrid.com/lifespan-of-a-toyota-prius-battery/>, you can expect your Toyota Prius battery to last between 10 and 15 years, especially if you take good care of it. However, there are a handful of factors that go into what makes a "healthy" battery. Wrightgrid noted that you can determine how quickly your Prius' battery is deteriorating by the frequency of voltage spikes, but you should get about 150,000 miles at the bare minimum before seeing any sort of problems in your car's handling. You can keep your battery charged by driving your vehicle regularly, and by keeping is gassed up so that you aren't relying so heavily on your hybrid EV system. It's not unlike charging a very large phone; the healthiest charge level is somewhere between 30-80% at all times. You may also want to limit the number of "short" trips, or tours through populated urban spaces with many stop lights -- or spaces with heavy traffic. Trips like these can put stress on your car's battery that lowers its lifespan. You may as well balance these trips out with a few longer trips to lower-density spaces such as freeways and rural roads, where you can give both your gas engine and electric motor some regular exercise."
Note that it dispels the myth that they are great for short trips in town --- On Fri, May 27, 2022 at 4:23 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > The run flat problem is a lead acid battery problem, not a lithium battery > issue. The BMS is supposed to prevent the battery getting discharged to > damaging levels. > For off grid solar lithium is a game changer, they're physically smaller, > don't off gas, and can be deep discharged without damage. For me the issue > is that they won't charge well when cold so I'd need to find a place for > them inside the heated envelope of the camp. I think I've got it figured > out and our next batteries will probably be lithium. > Curt > > Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android > > On Fri, May 27, 2022 at 3:34 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes< > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: What are they warrantied for? > > As I understand it, they don't "expire" they start losing capacity (which > reduces range) and eventually they will no longer provide a useful range to > the owner of the vehicle. > > It also depends how they are used. If they are run to near-flat and then > fully recharged, that's harder on the battery life than running them down > to say 40% and charging back up to say 80% charge (assuming that meets your > range requirements). > > > On Fri, May 27, 2022, at 2:17 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: > > I am not aware that EV battery packs expire in 5 years. Can you back up > > that statement? > > > > On Fri, May 27, 2022 at 3:15 PM G Mann via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> > > wrote: > > > >> If you do a hard cost analysis of purchase cost of the EV auto, then > add in > >> the hard cost of owning a solar power collection system to feed the EV > with > >> energy, then do an actual hard cost per mile used, it raises some real > >> questions about just how economical the EV actually is to own and > support, > >> doesn't it? > >> Somewhere along the way, you would need to factor in the expected > service > >> life of the EV, the solar system, storage batteries, and other equipment > >> required, like the expected $20,000 + to replace the EV's battery packs > in > >> 5 years. > >> > >> On Fri, May 27, 2022 at 12:02 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes < > >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >> > >> > On Fri, May 27, 2022, at 11:55 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote: > >> > > This is my position. I’m more than wiling to “go green” if it makes > >> > > good financial sense. At present and for the foreseeable future, it > >> > > doesn’t. That’s whether it pertains to cars or stationary power > >> systems. > >> > > >> > To me it's like having a septic system instead of utility sewer > service. > >> > I'll do it if there's no better option (and I do have a septic system > at > >> my > >> > house) but I'd much rather pay a utility to handle it. > >> > > >> > I'd have to see a much-better-than-break-even proposal to be even > >> slightly > >> > interested in running my own solar panel rig. > >> > > >> > Allan > >> > > >> > _______________________________________ > >> > http://www.okiebenz.com > >> > > >> > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >> > > >> > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >> > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >> > > >> > > >> _______________________________________ > >> http://www.okiebenz.com > >> > >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >> > >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >> > >> > > _______________________________________ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > _______________________________________ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > _______________________________________ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > -- OK Don "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect." Mark Twain “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.” Wernher Von Braun 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! _______________________________________ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
