You wrote:<<I suspect there are too many under-qualified people being allowed into
colleges.>>

I read somewhere recently that something like 75% of Freshmen had to take remedial English, Math and other courses before they could proceed with college level classes - the material offered in HS is inefficient. And the students are not aware of the level of effort reqired in college - well, the way college used to be.,

I wish I could find it again - a while back I saw an 8th grade proficiency exam from 1908 or so - I graduated HS in 1968 and most of those questions were way over my head I'm sorry to say.

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Redghost" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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On the issue of quantity of humanities v. engineering graduates, I
suspect there are too many under-qualified people being allowed into
colleges.   When you actually had to pay for the education, you had a
better quality student entering.  Now any idiot that can claim some
affiliation with a minority group supported by an entitlement program
gets a free education.

If these people were employed in manufacturing jobs, maybe the quality
would go up, because the more qualified would be educated either on the
job, or through a business degree.

On Jan 14, 2007, at 12:06 PM, LarryT wrote:

you wrote:<<most of my current managers (in a materials supply
industry)
have degrees in Liberal Arts>>

Hmmm, I wonder if that is because of the low # of
engineering/scientist our
colleges are turning out?  Along with a high # of Liberal Arts degrees
forcing a glut on the market - so a company that is looking for a
Bachelors
degree holder must accept whatever comse in the door?

While the US still leads the world in most areas I gotta wonder how
long we
can keep that position while putting square pegs into round holes?
Those
managers can do an amazing amount of damage to morale and the product.

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From: "Peter Frederick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2007 12:33 PM
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The US plants have American managers.  If they are like the ones I
have
currently at my current job (major US company as a contractor), they
can turn any set of parts into junk.

The notion that "if you know how to do it you are prohibited from
managing it" seems to be universal in the US -- the only thing that
counts is daily cash savings.  Actual knowledge appears to disqualify
one to manage anything -- most of my current managers (in a materials
supply industry) have degrees in Liberal Arts.....

Naturally, you get lousy product as a result.

Peter


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