Hello there I definitely agree with bhavya. We should except and adopt the touchscreen technology. I use combination of both dictation and on-screen keyboard. If somebody requires physical keyboard why not use a Bluetooth keyboard? Let's not make a debate Have you tried iPhone by any chance? How about Braille input? That might solve the issues. Hope that helps.
Sent from my iPhone > On 26 May 2015, at 14:00, Avichal Bhatnagar <coolavic...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Is jellybean keyboard better than google keyboard? > >> On 5/25/15, Bhavya shah <bhavya.shah...@gmail.com> wrote: >> Hi, >> Rajesh Sir, >> I will not deny the fact that a keyboard is a more powerful input tool >> than a Touch Screen. However, we must adapt to our surroundings or >> bring a positive change. I have chosen the former because it is >> feasible and suitable for me, and, if you desperately require a >> hardware keyboard, external keyboard options are always available, >> from the tiniest sizes up to those several inches big. >> Try the best combinations of screen readers, text to speech engines, >> software keyboards and related typing applications, and, see how fast >> you can go. For instance, Google Keyboard, Jelly Bean Keyboard, Swipe >> Keyboard, Samsung Keyboard and others are a few recommended and >> accessible software keyboards, ESpeak and ETI Eloquence are two >> incredibly responsive text to speech engines, and Shine+ seemingly >> eliminates audio cutoffs in Lollipop for Motorolla devices (and >> Samsung ones too), so, another solution to a problem. Now, try with >> this combination and see if your typing speed boosts... >> Usage of Simbian makes our mobile experience rather restrictive and >> old fashioned, and, with rapidly evolving technology, despite our >> visual impairment, we must make efforts of adapting to various >> technologies through innovative mechanisms and means. >> Just a few thoughts on the matter... >> Thanks. >> >>> On 5/25/15, Asudani, Rajesh <rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in> wrote: >>> Well, voice input, though highly accurate with google, is not a >>> substitute >>> for typing, me thinks. >>> What about privacy? >>> For instance, how would I do whatsapping? >>> >>> >>> And, I cannot comprehend why we have to throw away the old necessarily? >>> The thing as useful as keyboard, for instance? >>> I am not rangling emotionally, but do hope companies would see sense in >>> good >>> old physical keypad to be retained over aesthetically appealing touch >>> screen. >>> >>> With thanks and regards >>> >>> (Rajesh Asudani) >>> >>> AGM >>> MIU >>> Reserve Bank Of India >>> Nagpur >>> >>> Co-Moderator >>> VIB-India >>> >>> President >>> VIBEWA >>> >>> Phone: 0712 2806846 >>> >>> A-pilll = Action coupled with Positivity, Interest, Love, Logic and >>> Laughter >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Mobile.accessindia >>> [mailto:mobile.accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of >>> Bhavya >>> shah >>> Sent: Saturday, May 23, 2015 11:53 PM >>> To: Dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile >>> phones >>> and Tabs. >>> Subject: Re: [Mobile.AI] There's Another Screen Reader, and it Wants to >>> Shine on your Android device >>> >>> Hi, >>> Avichal, >>> By IVR, do you mean dialling numbers as instructed during calls to >>> companies >>> technical support or customer care teams? If so, dialling one number is >>> extremely simple and doable. >>> If you require the steps for these, I will willingly provide them, but, >>> if >>> you are referring to something else, do clarify. >>> A keyboard is a more powerful device than Touch Screen, however, if done >>> in >>> the right way, most of the productivity and efficiency can be emulated via >>> a >>> Touch Screen input method, even for the visually impaired. >>> My first device was an Android powered full touch Motorolla G second >>> generation which I am happily usig=ng even now. For places where I >>> require >>> to type, I use Voice Input to emulate the same speed of a keyboard user. >>> All the same, I like my computer and its keyboarding facilities to >>> perform >>> majority of my tasks, however, the same applies to a significant extent >>> to >>> sighted people as well. >>> Anyways, as Harish Sir rightly said, discussing this further would truly >>> lead nowhere. Make efforts to adapt to newer technology and use existing >>> users as an encouragement boosting point to instigate yourself to try >>> hard >>> to make the switch without significant compromises. It is doable. >>> Thanks. >>> >>>> On 5/23/15, Avichal Bhatnagar <coolavic...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> I also feel that physical keypad is the best. >>>> When using a full touch screen, using IVR service becomes totally >>>> impossible. >>>> >>>>> On 5/22/15, Shyam M. Sayanekar <sayane...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> Hello Rajesh, I fully subscribe to your view, and some days back, I >>>>> had written in detail on this point. Thanks for your views. >>>>> Professor Shyam M. Sayanekar >>>>> Telephone: 0251-2438457 >>>>> Mobile: +91 9920410788 >>>>> Skype ID- sayanekar >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> From: "Asudani, Rajesh" <rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in> >>>>> To: "Dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of >>>>> mobile phonesand Tabs. " <mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in> >>>>> Sent: Friday, May 22, 2015 10:08 AM >>>>> Subject: Re: [Mobile.AI] There's Another Screen Reader, and it Wants >>>>> to Shine on your Android device >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Good. >>>>>> May newer screen readers continue to shine on android. >>>>>> But, frankly, and here I believe I am speaking for most of totally >>>>>> blind persons above age of 35, that ease of symbian is surely >>>>>> missing in android >>>>>> >>>>>> touch screen phones, and I vehemently lament the loss of that ease >>>>>> and privacy on phone. >>>>>> For me, Even performing a simple task as forwarding messages is an >>>>>> uphill task even after trying and exploring touch screen for about >>>>>> eight months now. >>>>>> This will be the case until an android device with keypad comes >>>>>> along. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> With thanks and regards >>>>>> >>>>>> (Rajesh Asudani) >>>>>> >>>>>> AGM >>>>>> MIU >>>>>> Reserve Bank Of India >>>>>> Nagpur >>>>>> >>>>>> Co-Moderator >>>>>> VIB-India >>>>>> >>>>>> President >>>>>> VIBEWA >>>>>> >>>>>> Phone: 0712 2806846 >>>>>> >>>>>> A-pilll = Action coupled with Positivity, Interest, Love, Logic and >>>>>> Laughter >>>>>> >>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> From: Mobile.accessindia >>>>>> [mailto:mobile.accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of >>>>>> Bhavya >>>>>> >>>>>> shah >>>>>> Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2015 5:54 PM >>>>>> To: eyes-free; mobile.accessindia; keyboardusers >>>>>> Subject: [Mobile.AI] There's Another Screen Reader, and it Wants to >>>>>> Shine on your Android device >>>>>> >>>>>> There's Another Screen Reader, and it Wants to Shine on your Android >>>>>> device TAMAS GECZY ON MAY 19, 2015 For the longest time, Talkback >>>>>> has been >>>>>> >>>>>> the only good and useful screen reader on Android -- though this was >>>>>> not always the case. Senior Android users might fondly recall Spiel, >>>>>> which was >>>>>> >>>>>> alive around 2011 last, a screen reader that even surpassed Talkback >>>>>> in functionality and speed. Google then suddenly changed the entire >>>>>> framework >>>>>> >>>>>> for how accessibility is done on their platform, and Spiel was no >>>>>> more. >>>>>> Although current compiled releases of it can be run successfully >>>>>> even under Android 5.1, the code is not often maintained and needs a >>>>>> lot of work to be a daily driver. >>>>>> And then, without warning, a new contender came on to the scene. The >>>>>> 1 megabyte screen reader, which is technically called Shine Plus is >>>>>> developed by a Chinese company called ATLab. As a result, the >>>>>> English text >>>>>> >>>>>> of the program and manual is not constructed well, though this does >>>>>> not take away from its functionality if you are willing to learn and >>>>>> be patient with the interface. The manual can be found here in a >>>>>> text file form. >>>>>> You might be wondering, is it better than Talkback? >>>>>> Before we dive into some of the unique features of Shine plus, we >>>>>> must note that it is a very special screen reader as it also >>>>>> includes a screen magnifier and other tools for people who have >>>>>> high-partial vision. This means that it not only is a screen reader, >>>>>> but also a magnifier at the same time. In the Android world, that's >>>>>> definitely a first, and this reason alone could make it useful for >>>>>> many people, since changing the mode >>>>>> >>>>>> it operates in is very simple. >>>>>> When you first install the Shine Plus application (it does not call >>>>>> itself >>>>>> >>>>>> "Another Talkback screen reader"), you need to launch the >>>>>> application from >>>>>> >>>>>> your home screen to configure it. Here you will set your desired >>>>>> mode depending on the level of vision you have. First, the app will >>>>>> actually check whether you have Google TTS or the keyboard >>>>>> installed, and then will >>>>>> >>>>>> proceed to allow you the option to set your mode of preference. Once >>>>>> you press the back button, it will place you into the Accessibility >>>>>> settings of Android, where you will be given a list of available >>>>>> services. >>>>>> The three options are "based on voice support", "based on letter >>>>>> expansion", and "sight protection." No, it will not protect you from >>>>>> the horrors of the sighted world -- that latter choice is for those >>>>>> who need to >>>>>> >>>>>> have parts of the screen spoken outloud from time to time. It allows >>>>>> you to use a "candy bar" which you can pan around the screen and use >>>>>> to read parts of it accordingly. >>>>>> Voice support is what those who are completely blind will use, while >>>>>> the other one (letter expansion) is for those who need letters >>>>>> zoomed bigger as they use their device. Once you have set your >>>>>> choice, enabling the screen reader is the next challenge. >>>>>> We have found that in most cases, it is impossible to press "OK" >>>>>> after the >>>>>> >>>>>> confirmation dialog appears which asks you to turn on Shine Plus. >>>>>> This is easy enough to resolve, though requires some agility. When >>>>>> you have reached the alert prompt to enable it, Pause Talkback >>>>>> either through the global context menu or the new volume up+ volume >>>>>> down key combination. >>>>>> >>>>>> Once paused, press near the bottom right corner of the screen, right >>>>>> above >>>>>> >>>>>> the home/back/recents button bar of your device. >>>>>> This will activate Shine plus, though you are not yet done. Lock the >>>>>> screen to have Talkback return. Next, go back and disable Talkback >>>>>> to have >>>>>> >>>>>> Shine Plus function properly. >>>>>> Some people have reported success with the "tripple click home" >>>>>> function of Shine Plus. Here, you would disable talkback and press >>>>>> your home button three times in quick succession to enable the >>>>>> service. This for us was a hit or miss on devices that do not have a >>>>>> physical home >>>>>> button- sometimes it works, other times not so. If you are using a >>>>>> Galaxy device however, simply disable talkback in Accessibility >>>>>> settings and press the home button three times. >>>>>> The screen reader offers some functionality not present in Talkback. >>>>>> For example, you can copy the screen to the clipboard, or parts of >>>>>> text. >>>>>> The "command panel" (similar to Talkback's global menu) is feature >>>>>> packed with other functions. There are two interesting ones called >>>>>> Ear Talk and whisper. With Ear Talk, you can choose a specific >>>>>> detail of your phone (battery status, last message) to be spoken >>>>>> through your phone's earpiece when it is held to your head. Ear Talk >>>>>> will redirect all speech to this speaker entirely, so (in theory) it >>>>>> could be used in situations where you are looking for privacy but do >>>>>> not have headphones. In practice, it is a bit tricky to use as a >>>>>> touch screen element can easily be activated. >>>>>> To access the command pannel, swipe right than left in quick >>>>>> succession. >>>>>> You will hear two high-pitched tones and the announcement, "command >>>>>> panel." Here are the options, from top to bottom, exploring the >>>>>> screen in >>>>>> >>>>>> a line left to right: >>>>>> * Top two lines: Includes speech and volume increments (2 stage >>>>>> speed on first line, / 70% volume, on second, for example.) * third >>>>>> line: Key echo. >>>>>> >>>>>> Notification method (Block or output all notifications), wi-fi >>>>>> (toggle on/off), Bluetooth (toggle on/off), cover mode (toggle >>>>>> on/off), speak call >>>>>> >>>>>> info, Whisper auto mode, and ear talk. >>>>>> * Third line: Short key, label (for graphics), marking (seems to >>>>>> auto label graphics?), version information, screen auto read, screen >>>>>> character string (spells out item in last focus), app delete, >>>>>> translation. >>>>>> * Fourth line - granularities: character, word, line, paragraph, >>>>>> default, copy, additional copy, paste. >>>>>> * Fifth line: Web list, web editbox, web phone number, Web search, >>>>>> Youtube >>>>>> >>>>>> search, app search, voice search. These open corresponding apps on >>>>>> your device, such as Youtube or the Voice Search app. >>>>>> * sixth line: Short key list, Shine setting, device (opens up your >>>>>> settings app), execute app list (opens up overview or recent apps >>>>>> list), sound (sound settings), Keyboard (language and input), >>>>>> accessibility (same >>>>>> >>>>>> as in settings.) No doubt this list is a bit overwhelming, and for >>>>>> this reason Shine Plus might be useful for more advanced users or >>>>>> those who just want a higher degree of customization. Talkback still >>>>>> wins for some, because it is simple to configure, is not cluttered, >>>>>> and thus less complicated. >>>>>> Similar to Talkback, it will tell you when you plug or unplug a >>>>>> power source. Scrolling is a bit problematic, because there is no >>>>>> proper earcon for knowing how far you are in a list -- it uses the >>>>>> Browse Mode exit sound >>>>>> >>>>>> from the popular NVDA screen reader to indicate scrolling. >>>>>> This was by far the largest problem with Shine Plus, and the manual >>>>>> is not >>>>>> >>>>>> very clear on what each setting is about. >>>>>> For users of devices that have capacitive buttons such as the Galaxy >>>>>> series, Shine Plus also allows you to double tap these (similar to >>>>>> how it would be on a nexus or soft-button based device), rather than >>>>>> using them with one tap. This feature, curiously, is also present in >>>>>> the latest Galaxy S6 as an accessibility setting. Other interesting >>>>>> features to note include the ability for seek controls to be raised >>>>>> or lowered with the volume keys (this is also now in Talkback 4.2), >>>>>> options to configure how the phone keypad works (and whether a swipe >>>>>> up on the screen will answer/end calls), configuring what >>>>>> notifications are read outloud, an option that unlocks your device >>>>>> automatically when power button is pressed >>>>>> >>>>>> (if there is no pin), and even a feature that will launch a specific >>>>>> application after your screen is turned on. >>>>>> Could this make a good daily screen reader? That's your call. For >>>>>> now, this is a project worth keeping tabs on, as it could give >>>>>> Google's efforts >>>>>> >>>>>> a serious run if it improves right over time. If you're patient and >>>>>> advanced enough, go ahead, give it a try. Just be sure to re-enable >>>>>> talkback if you uninstall it, because without a screen reader turned >>>>>> on, your phone will definitely not shine. >>>>>> Source: >>>>>> http://www.coolblindtech.com/theres-another-screen-reader-and-it-wan >>>>>> ts-to-shine-on-your-android-device/ >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Warm Regards >>>>>> Bhavya Shah >>>>>> Using NVDA (Non Visual Desktop Access) free and open source screen >>>>>> reader for Microsoft Windows To download a copy of the free screen >>>>>> reader NVDA, please visit http://www.nvaccess.org/ Using Google >>>>>> Talkback on Motorolla G >>>>>> >>>>>> second generation Lollipop 5.0.2 Reach me through the following means: >>>>>> Mobile: +91 7506221750 >>>>>> E-mail id: bhavya.shah...@gmail.com >>>>>> Skype id : bhavya.09 >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Search for previous postings at: >>>>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Mobile.accessindia mailing list >>>>>> Mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in >>>>>> http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_access >>>>>> india.org.in >>>>>> >>>>>> to post send mail to: mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in >>>>>> >>>>>> Disclaimer: >>>>>> 1. 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