I think there are two paths... mod_perl needs more market-awareness... it
needs a PR and marketing company.. then companies will start using it, then
there will be more dreams jobs like you described.. simple fact is, I
couldn't name more then 3 companies in my area who use it, and I never
expect to do work with it again.
Other path--- start your own company who has some product or web based
service which uses mod_perl as their platform of choice.. market it, and
sell it.. takes capital, but..nothing the collective efforts of an open
source community couldn't do... gotta have that idea though..
----- Original Message -----
From: "Stas Bekman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "mod_perl list" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, April 27, 2001 11:44 AM
Subject: an unusual [job request] + taking mod_perl to the commercial world
>
> Well, I've talked to a few mod_perl guys over the last conference and by
> email lately and we have have all agreed that we are quite sick of
> generating forms and parsing them, no matter what cool toolkit and hype
> words we are using to do that. So we all are looking at doing core
> mod_perl, i.e. we want to develop *mod_perl* *itself* and tightly related
> modules.
>
> Since mod_perl is an open source, it's a tough quest. Basically what I
> want is get some company that will benefit from me working on open source
> project full time and pay me a salary. Of course it's probably hard to get
> a full time open source position, so probably some compromising offer,
> where we do some 50-75% of the time mod_perl development and the rest
> doing something else, if it makes the company more happy.
>
> Definitely I'm aware of the situation in the market. But you know what,
> look at the history, at any recession times there were always those who
> continued to prosper. Therefore I believe that some companies not even
> slowed down, but have accelerated their growth and have enough cash to
> invest into open source and make probably improve their image. Look for
> example at Covalent, I don't know all the details, but this company seem
> to stand strong on its legs. But Covalent has already Doug, so this is out
> of question.
>
> So if your company thinks it can directly or indirectly benefit from
> having one or more mod_perl experts doing cool mod_perl development, let
> us know. There are at least 3 people (including me) that want this job.
> I'm sure that there are many more that will be interested.
>
> I've mentioned in the subject that the request is unusual, so please
> respond only if you think you can stand behind this offer and not promise
> things that will never become true. I've bitten once on such an offer, and
> will try not to do the same mistake a second time in a row.
>
> Thanks a lot!
>
> On the related note, does anybody know about the financial status of
> Velocigen? How do they sell their products? We think to try to revive this
> old idea where we create mod_perl company, that will sell mod_perl and
> support. If Velocigen can do this with a closed source product, I believe
> we can do even better, especially with the drooling mod_perl 2.0.
>
> We have discussed this with I think 6 mod_perl guys about a year ago, but
> since all of us were programmers, we didn't get anywhere. May be we can
> come up with some nice business plan, and make a commercial mod_perl
> branch, boost the awareness of the product, get companies to invest into
> people developing it and make mod_perl a standard for webserver products.
> I know that it's a rewishful thinking, but with the right people and right
> companies I'm sure that everything is possible. I'm sure that you realize
> the potential of mod_perl.
>
> IMHO of course... I'm just a programmer, so if you ask about my business
> plan, I tell: you find a good business shark and push it forward, we will
> do the coding. Easy huh, but that's what we are good at -- coding, so we
> better do that.
>
> Anyway, fresh ideas are welcome
>
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