Tim:
I'd like to hear more about the boom tent you're having made. I may  
give your supplier another order. What material did you choose, how  
large is the tent, and how will it attach to your boat?

Gordon
M17 #377 "Sapphire"
Milwaukee

On Nov 15, 2008, at 2:23 PM, Tim Diebert wrote:

> I would agree with most of what Dave has pointed out in regards to  
> the M17.
> While you can sit in an M17, IMHO there is not really a way to sit for
> longer periods comfortably.
> I am only 5'9" tall and even with a custom made back rest on the  
> strbd qtr
> berth 'seat', my head hits the cabin sides.
>
> In good weather the cockpit is always the most comfortable area to  
> sit. (I
> am having a nice boom tent made for the boat)
>
> I am right in the middle of laying out a truly custom seat inside  
> my 17. I
> have some minor back issues and need to be able to relax my back  
> after a day
> of sailing. Once I have this little job done the 17 will be the  
> perfect boat
> for me.
>
> I would also add that I have cruised for 10 days with my wife on  
> the 17. All
> anchorages no marinas. It was easy enough, but once we were home  
> she did
> tell me that although it was fine, she wouldn't be doing it again.  
> That was
> two summers ago. (I should add that it was during a hot spell, no  
> rain)
> I have been planning a couple of weeks in the Gulf Islands next  
> season. Just
> two days ago she asked if she could come along.
> Tim
> Kelowna BC
> M17 #369
> ---------------------------------------------
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of  
> W David
> Scobie
> Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2008 11:57 AM
> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats
> Subject: Re: M_Boats: Montgomery 17
>
> john & joy:
>
> i'm a M15 owner (wishing to 'move up' to the 17).
>
> sleeping - the forward v-berth is the location.  the compression  
> post does
> 'split' the berth.  the 1/4 berths are good for seating, not adult  
> sleeping.
>
> seating - one can sit in the 17 no problem (unless you are long in  
> body and
> over 6'4").  one cannot stand when in the cabin.
>
> overnighting - if you work well together one can do multiple weeks/ 
> months in
> the 17 ... but my perspective is from the M15 and tent-camping.   
> the Mboats
> can carry more stuff than you can really need ... under the berths,  
> the
> stern end of the quarterberths and cockpit locters.
>
> potty:  under the v-berth, starboard side of the compression post.
>
> steel centerboard & ballast - only the older boats the the steel.   
> the new
> boats are lead.  the current model M15 & M17 use the same  
> centerboard.  see
> SCRED's www-site for a page about the steel centerboard/ballast and  
> the M17
> (link below).
>
> you are correct that there are not many used M17s available ...  
> there is a
> reason for this.  they are GREAT boats!
>
>
> dave scobie
> M15 #288 - SCRED
> visit Scred's www-site: http://www.freewebs.com/m15-named-scred
>
> --- On Sat, 11/15/08, John Merrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Greetings,
>   We're researching various trailerable "pocket cruisers" such as
> the Montgomery 17, ComPac Sun Cat, Precision 18 and Catalina 18 MK II.
> Since
> Montgomery sells direct to the public from California, it's  
> difficult to
> view on of these fine boats.  With that said, we're soon to be  
> retired and
> want to do some "trailer sailing" to enhance our retirement
> activities.  Having owned a Skipper 20 and a Morgan OutIsland 30,  
> we have
> some
> sailing experience.
>   We've emailed Montgomery with some questions, but we'd prefer to
> obtain information from M17 owners.  One of our first questions is  
> does the
> cabin have sufficient room for two adults to spend 3 to 4 nights on  
> the
> hook?
> How much sitting headroom is there, especially where the head is  
> located?
> How
> long and wide are the berths?  Without opening ports, is there enough
> ventalation, or would dorades be a good idea?  What about the steel
> centerboard;
> is maintenance difficult and what all is required to keep it working
> properly?
>   We realize we're asking a lot of questions, but Montgomery's are
> expensive new and there doesn't seem to be many pre-owned M17's on the
> market.  Again, it's difficult to find one to even look over.  So  
> we are
> hoping we can find some help through this avenue.
>   Early thanks for any help you can provide.
> Sincerely, John and Joy
>
>
>
>
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