Tim: Thanks for sharing your ideas. It sounds like you've put a lot of thought into creating a versatile boom tent. I'll look forward to seeing your mockup! The pieces by Charles Stock are fun to read as well.
Gordon On Nov 16, 2008, at 10:35 AM, Tim Diebert wrote: > "I'd like to hear more about the boom tent you're having made. I may > give your supplier another order. What material did you choose, how > large is the tent, and how will it attach to your boat?" > > I have been thinking about and working on this boom tent for some > time. > I am slowly closing in on the final size and design mock up. > I have been monk eying around with boom height, shape and supports. > I bought a very large light weight poly tarp (white) to use as a > pattern and > > (interim) boom tent. This stuff is easy to cut and tape into the > shape I > want. > I can add grommets wherever I need them. > > Normally, in my own area I have little need for a boom tent. The > summers > are warm with little rain. What has changed is I have taken to > sleeping in > the > cockpit most nights. It is just easier to keep an anchor watch on > windy > nights > and saves getting out of bed to stand up and have a look throughout > the > night. > Plus it is just nicer with more fresh air and stars. > On potential weather nights it would be great to have some cover. > My goal is to spend more and more time in the Gulf Islands during the > summers. > Even in the middle of a coastal summer, occasional damp and rainy > days are > inevitable. > > The plan at this point is to have a full enclosure with a sloping > forward > section to > provide at least a little aerodynamic flow. I have been led to > believe this > will settle > the boat when on the hook. > I plan on lots of zippers to add or subtract panels. I hope to be > able to > convert to > an open sun shade as well as have screened panels when necessary. > Big plans.....we'll see. If finances permit, I will have a local > canvas > expert make it. > If not, I will attempt the construction myself. Once there is a final > functional version, > and I am happy with it, I will share dimensions and specs. If I do > intend to > have it > made, we can either have he maker keep the patterns so others can > have one > built. Or I can share some images of the mock up and see about a price > reduction > for more than one unit. > > My main inspiration comes from what Charles Stock has done for his 17 > footer. > There is one small image of his arrangement on this page (better > images > appear > in his book) > http://shoal-waters.moonfruit.com/#/stodaypart1/4513804970 > > Here is some excellent info: > http://www.mistweb.force9.co.uk/content/cpittent.html > > ...and some more: > http://www.canvaswindmill.co.uk/PAGE2.HTM > > This page has some good details and tips: > http://www.widgetsailor.com/sbjournal/tent/tent1.html > > Here is a short essay by Charles Stock on living aboard a small boat. > As written by a man who has sailed 60,000 miles on his 17 foot > sailboat > ....often with his wife. Keep in mind, an M17 is a lot roomier than > this 17 > footer. > http://shoal-waters.moonfruit.com/#/livingcomfortlyon/4513744242 > > > Cheers, Tim Diebert > M17 PUFF > Kelowna BC, Canada.....six hours from the big salty lake. > > > > > > > > > On Nov 15, 2008, at 2:23 PM, Tim Diebert wrote: > >> I would agree with most of what Dave has pointed out in regards to >> the M17. >> While you can sit in an M17, IMHO there is not really a way to sit >> for >> longer periods comfortably. >> I am only 5'9" tall and even with a custom made back rest on the >> strbd qtr >> berth 'seat', my head hits the cabin sides. >> >> In good weather the cockpit is always the most comfortable area to >> sit. (I >> am having a nice boom tent made for the boat) >> >> I am right in the middle of laying out a truly custom seat inside >> my 17. I >> have some minor back issues and need to be able to relax my back >> after a day >> of sailing. Once I have this little job done the 17 will be the >> perfect boat >> for me. >> >> I would also add that I have cruised for 10 days with my wife on >> the 17. All >> anchorages no marinas. It was easy enough, but once we were home >> she did >> tell me that although it was fine, she wouldn't be doing it again. >> That was >> two summers ago. (I should add that it was during a hot spell, no >> rain) >> I have been planning a couple of weeks in the Gulf Islands next >> season. Just >> two days ago she asked if she could come along. >> Tim >> Kelowna BC >> M17 #369 >> --------------------------------------------- >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of >> W David >> Scobie >> Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2008 11:57 AM >> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats >> Subject: Re: M_Boats: Montgomery 17 >> >> john & joy: >> >> i'm a M15 owner (wishing to 'move up' to the 17). >> >> sleeping - the forward v-berth is the location. the compression >> post does >> 'split' the berth. the 1/4 berths are good for seating, not adult >> sleeping. >> >> seating - one can sit in the 17 no problem (unless you are long in >> body and >> over 6'4"). one cannot stand when in the cabin. >> >> overnighting - if you work well together one can do multiple weeks/ >> months in >> the 17 ... but my perspective is from the M15 and tent-camping. >> the Mboats >> can carry more stuff than you can really need ... under the berths, >> the >> stern end of the quarterberths and cockpit locters. >> >> potty: under the v-berth, starboard side of the compression post. >> >> steel centerboard & ballast - only the older boats the the steel. >> the new >> boats are lead. the current model M15 & M17 use the same >> centerboard. see >> SCRED's www-site for a page about the steel centerboard/ballast and >> the M17 >> (link below). >> >> you are correct that there are not many used M17s available ... >> there is a >> reason for this. they are GREAT boats! >> >> >> dave scobie >> M15 #288 - SCRED >> visit Scred's www-site: http://www.freewebs.com/m15-named-scred >> >> --- On Sat, 11/15/08, John Merrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> Greetings, >> We're researching various trailerable "pocket cruisers" such as >> the Montgomery 17, ComPac Sun Cat, Precision 18 and Catalina 18 MK >> II. >> Since >> Montgomery sells direct to the public from California, it's >> difficult to >> view on of these fine boats. With that said, we're soon to be >> retired and >> want to do some "trailer sailing" to enhance our retirement >> activities. Having owned a Skipper 20 and a Morgan OutIsland 30, >> we have >> some >> sailing experience. >> We've emailed Montgomery with some questions, but we'd prefer to >> obtain information from M17 owners. One of our first questions is >> does the >> cabin have sufficient room for two adults to spend 3 to 4 nights on >> the >> hook? >> How much sitting headroom is there, especially where the head is >> located? >> How >> long and wide are the berths? Without opening ports, is there enough >> ventalation, or would dorades be a good idea? What about the steel >> centerboard; >> is maintenance difficult and what all is required to keep it working >> properly? >> We realize we're asking a lot of questions, but Montgomery's are >> expensive new and there doesn't seem to be many pre-owned M17's on >> the >> market. Again, it's difficult to find one to even look over. So >> we are >> hoping we can find some help through this avenue. >> Early thanks for any help you can provide. >> Sincerely, John and Joy >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com >> Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.9.4/1790 - Release Date: >> 11/15/2008 >> 9:32 AM >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats > > > _______________________________________________ > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.9.4/1790 - Release Date: > 11/15/2008 > 9:32 AM > > > _______________________________________________ > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats
