Rich,

the ridiculous Paypal fees are not limited to ebay. When somebody sends me 
money and I refund the full amount, Paypal still charges me some kind of 
'transaction fee'. It's 'only' 40 cents or something, but for an enterprise 
like Paypal it should add up to a nice extra profit.

It seems to me that 'ebay managed payments' is exactly what I expected it to 
be. I'm so glad I closed my ebay shop instead of prolonging my subscription for 
another year. I could use the extra income of course, but with all the hassle 
involved, it's just not worth it.

Helmut



> Am 07.09.2020 um 10:22 schrieb MPB warehouse <wareho...@comic-art.com>:
> 
> I understand this problem exists, but I have never experienced it myself.
> Of course... I don't sell... on ebay
> 
> 
> On 9/7/2020 1:20 AM, John Reid wrote:
>> Well, actually the problem is exactly the same for pros and casual sellers 
>> although it is certainly worse on eBay. If someone purchases something but 
>> changes their mind and wants a refund, the seller refunds the money. 
>> However, Paypal keeps the original fee that the seller was charged.
>> 
>> There is no getting around that irrespective of how many transactions you 
>> make (and I have made many, many thousands through Paypal through my website 
>> and eBay). This policy is something that was introduced a year ago and it is 
>> one reason why some of the larger companies no longer accept Paypal. I agree 
>> that there are a lot of good things about Paypal but this policy is not one 
>> of them. In fact, many sellers have no idea that the policy exists.
>> 
>> Regards
>> 
>> John
>> 
>> John Reid
>> Moviemem Original Movie Posters
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of MPB 
>> warehouse
>> Sent: 7 September, 2020 4:03 PM
>> To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
>> Subject: Re: [MOPO] Paypal's refund policy
>> 
>> I'm sure this problem is for ebay related sellers, of which too many just 
>> aren't pros and don't know how to handle refunds and the like
>> 
>> why do I say this?
>> Because I sold $1000 today from my own website, I'm about to download the 
>> money & it will be in my bank account tomorrow
>> 
>> I sell stuff on facebook, when I download the money, it's in my account the 
>> next morning
>> 
>> my experience with Paypal as an overall is top notch with few calls needed 
>> into customer service, and I've been with them since 1998
>> 
>> Rich
>> 
>> 
>> On 9/6/2020 6:16 PM, Dale Dilts wrote:
>>> It's BS, but ebay is going to direct payments and no longer going to flow 
>>> money into paypal shortly, so will no longer deal with that half the 
>>> problem.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "John Reid" <johnr...@moviemem.com>
>>> To: "MoPo-L" <MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU>
>>> Sent: Sunday, September 6, 2020 7:32:35 PM
>>> Subject: [MOPO] Paypal's refund policy
>>> 
>>> Hi to everyone and hope you are all well in these difficult times
>>> 
>>>   
>>> I am just curious as to what some of the dealers in this group think of 
>>> Paypal’s refund policy eg:
>>> 
>>>   
>>> If you need to refund a customer because they changed their mind, made a 
>>> mistake, thought they were purchasing a video, over paid on postage, etc 
>>> etc, Paypal refuses to refund the fee on the portion of the refund.
>>> 
>>>   
>>> I think it is very poor service to keep the fees even when the full amount 
>>> has been refunded through no fault of the seller. What do you all think?
>>> 
>>>   
>>>   
>>> Regards
>>> 
>>>   
>>> John
>>> 
>>>   
>>> John Reid
>>> 
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