I've heard Lilian Katz say that in addition to asking what kids COULD do, we need to ask what they SHOULD do. Whatever we ask them to do should matter to their lives at this time. That might relate to what you are saying. Bev
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 07:34:51 -0800> To: > mosaic@literacyworkshop.org> Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] Comprehension strategies > and Harcourt> > Has anyone taken into consideration some of Piaget's > theories, which > would support children from second grade on down being > "less likely" to > consider an assortment of ideas at the same time? I am not > trying to > denigrate the abilities of children, but what kind of > comprehension are > we looking for? Not counting the "word callers" and > "phonicators" who > trip gayly through text and then look at you blankly, I'm > wondering if > we aren't asking the "average kid" to know, do, and say more > than they > are developmentally ready for? Can't we just let them enjoy a > story any > more? Maybe tell us about their favorite part?> > Please don't > lecture me on standards. I'm talking about real kids.> > Renee> > > On Feb > 13, 2008, at 5:30 AM, Patricia Kimathi wrote:> > > I agree I see the same > thing with my gifted 2nd graders. Comprehension> > seems a mystery. This has > been a struggle, but we are almost there> > Patricia Kimathi> > Mission > Parent Representative> > California Association for the Gifted> > 8465 South > Van Ness Avenue> > Inglewood, CA 90305> > Phone: 323.750.6559> > Fax: > 323.292.3626> > Serving gifted students,> > parents, teachers, and > administrators> > of Los Angeles County> > On Feb 11, 2008, at 6:19 PM, > Bonita DeAmicis wrote:> >> >>> >> ---- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:> >>> I teach > gifted 5th graders, but have taught regular 3rd through 5th> >>> as well> >>> > as gifted 3rd through 5th. Having my reading endorsement, I too am> >>> > surprised> >>> by the word callers at the beginning of the year. This year I > was> >>> especially surprised because my class did not seem to think that> > >>> comprehension was> >>> important. Can you imagine?> >>> >> It is my > theory (totally unproven) that the trend toward testing and> >> basals has > hurried our students into fluent reading (ie word calling)> >> at the expense > of comprehension. The problem of students who can> >> sound out, read > smoothly, and have no clue what it means, has grown in> >> recent years at > the upper grades. I look forward to a return to> >> balance...> >>> >> > :)Bonita> >>> >> _______________________________________________> >> Mosaic > mailing list> >> Mosaic@literacyworkshop.org> >> To unsubscribe or modify > your membership please go to> >> > http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/> >> > mosaic_literacyworkshop.org.> >>> >> Search the MOSAIC archives at > http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive.> >>> > > _______________________________________________> > Mosaic mailing list> > > Mosaic@literacyworkshop.org> > To unsubscribe or modify your membership > please go to> > http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/ > > > mosaic_literacyworkshop.org.> >> > Search the MOSAIC archives at > http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive.> >> >> "We the People of the United States, > in Order to form a more perfect > Union, establish Justice, insure domestic > Tranquility, provide for the > common defence, promote the general Welfare, > and secure the Blessings > of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do > ordain and establish this > Constitution for the United States of America."> > > > > _______________________________________________> Mosaic mailing list> > Mosaic@literacyworkshop.org> To unsubscribe or modify your membership please > go to> > http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/mosaic_literacyworkshop.org.> > > Search the MOSAIC archives at http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive. > _________________________________________________________________ Shed those extra pounds with MSN and The Biggest Loser! http://biggestloser.msn.com/ _______________________________________________ Mosaic mailing list Mosaic@literacyworkshop.org To unsubscribe or modify your membership please go to http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/mosaic_literacyworkshop.org. Search the MOSAIC archives at http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive.
