I work with real kids and I consider them to be grand thinkers. I think the push to phonicate has little to do with development and something to do with the way we advertantly or inadvertantly message what is important about reading.
Lori On 2/13/08 8:34 AM, "Renee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Has anyone taken into consideration some of Piaget's theories, which > would support children from second grade on down being "less likely" to > consider an assortment of ideas at the same time? I am not trying to > denigrate the abilities of children, but what kind of comprehension are > we looking for? Not counting the "word callers" and "phonicators" who > trip gayly through text and then look at you blankly, I'm wondering if > we aren't asking the "average kid" to know, do, and say more than they > are developmentally ready for? Can't we just let them enjoy a story any > more? Maybe tell us about their favorite part? > > Please don't lecture me on standards. I'm talking about real kids. > > Renee > > > On Feb 13, 2008, at 5:30 AM, Patricia Kimathi wrote: > >> I agree I see the same thing with my gifted 2nd graders. Comprehension >> seems a mystery. This has been a struggle, but we are almost there >> Patricia Kimathi >> Mission Parent Representative >> California Association for the Gifted >> 8465 South Van Ness Avenue >> Inglewood, CA 90305 >> Phone: 323.750.6559 >> Fax: 323.292.3626 >> Serving gifted students, >> parents, teachers, and administrators >> of Los Angeles County >> On Feb 11, 2008, at 6:19 PM, Bonita DeAmicis wrote: >> >>> >>> ---- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >>>> I teach gifted 5th graders, but have taught regular 3rd through 5th >>>> as well >>>> as gifted 3rd through 5th. Having my reading endorsement, I too am >>>> surprised >>>> by the word callers at the beginning of the year. This year I was >>>> especially surprised because my class did not seem to think that >>>> comprehension was >>>> important. Can you imagine? >>> >>> It is my theory (totally unproven) that the trend toward testing and >>> basals has hurried our students into fluent reading (ie word calling) >>> at the expense of comprehension. The problem of students who can >>> sound out, read smoothly, and have no clue what it means, has grown in >>> recent years at the upper grades. I look forward to a return to >>> balance... >>> >>> :)Bonita >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Mosaic mailing list >>> Mosaic@literacyworkshop.org >>> To unsubscribe or modify your membership please go to >>> http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/ >>> mosaic_literacyworkshop.org. >>> >>> Search the MOSAIC archives at http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive. >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Mosaic mailing list >> Mosaic@literacyworkshop.org >> To unsubscribe or modify your membership please go to >> http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/ >> mosaic_literacyworkshop.org. >> >> Search the MOSAIC archives at http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive. >> >> > "We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect > Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the > common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings > of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this > Constitution for the United States of America." > > > > _______________________________________________ > Mosaic mailing list > Mosaic@literacyworkshop.org > To unsubscribe or modify your membership please go to > http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/mosaic_literacyworkshop.org. > > Search the MOSAIC archives at http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive. > -- Lori Jackson District Literacy Coach & Mentor Todd County School District Box 87 Mission SD 57555 http:www.tcsdk12.org ph. 605.856.2211 Literacies for All Summer Institute July 17-20. 2008 Tucson, Arizona _______________________________________________ Mosaic mailing list Mosaic@literacyworkshop.org To unsubscribe or modify your membership please go to http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/mosaic_literacyworkshop.org. Search the MOSAIC archives at http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive.
