Yes, Bev....
That is exactly what I am saying. :-)

Renee


On Feb 13, 2008, at 7:45 AM, Beverlee Paul wrote:

> I've heard Lilian Katz say that in addition to asking what kids COULD  
> do, we need to ask what they SHOULD do.  Whatever we ask them to do  
> should matter to their lives at this time.  That might relate to what  
> you are saying.  Bev
>
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 07:34:51  
>> -0800> To: mosaic@literacyworkshop.org> Subject: Re: [MOSAIC]  
>> Comprehension strategies and Harcourt> > Has anyone taken into  
>> consideration some of Piaget's theories, which > would support  
>> children from second grade on down being "less likely" to > consider  
>> an assortment of ideas at the same time? I am not trying to >  
>> denigrate the abilities of children, but what kind of comprehension  
>> are > we looking for? Not counting the "word callers" and  
>> "phonicators" who > trip gayly through text and then look at you  
>> blankly, I'm wondering if > we aren't asking the "average kid" to  
>> know, do, and say more than they > are developmentally ready for?  
>> Can't we just let them enjoy a story any > more? Maybe tell us about  
>> their favorite part?> > Please don't lecture me on standards. I'm  
>> talking about real kids.> > Renee> > > On Feb 13, 2008, at 5:30 AM,  
>> Patricia Kimathi wrote:> > > I agree I see the same thing with my  
>> gifted 2nd graders. Comprehension> > seems a mystery. This has been a  
>> struggle, but we are almost there> > Patricia Kimathi> > Mission  
>> Parent Representative> > California Association for the Gifted> >  
>> 8465 South Van Ness Avenue> > Inglewood, CA 90305> > Phone:  
>> 323.750.6559> > Fax: 323.292.3626> > Serving gifted students,> >  
>> parents, teachers, and administrators> > of Los Angeles County> > On  
>> Feb 11, 2008, at 6:19 PM, Bonita DeAmicis wrote:> >> >>> >> ----  
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:> >>> I teach gifted 5th graders, but have  
>> taught regular 3rd through 5th> >>> as well> >>> as gifted 3rd  
>> through 5th. Having my reading endorsement, I too am> >>> surprised>  
>> >>> by the word callers at the beginning of the year. This year I  
>> was> >>> especially surprised because my class did not seem to think  
>> that> >>> comprehension was> >>> important. Can you imagine?> >>> >>  
>> It is my theory (totally unproven) that the trend toward testing and>  
>> >> basals has hurried our students into fluent reading (ie word  
>> calling)> >> at the expense of comprehension. The problem of studen!
>  ts who c
> an> >> sound out, read smoothly, and have no clue what it means, has  
> grown in> >> recent years at the upper grades. I look forward to a  
> return to> >> balance...> >>> >> :)Bonita> >>> >>  
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