Yes, Bev.... That is exactly what I am saying. :-) Renee
On Feb 13, 2008, at 7:45 AM, Beverlee Paul wrote: > I've heard Lilian Katz say that in addition to asking what kids COULD > do, we need to ask what they SHOULD do. Whatever we ask them to do > should matter to their lives at this time. That might relate to what > you are saying. Bev > >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 07:34:51 >> -0800> To: mosaic@literacyworkshop.org> Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] >> Comprehension strategies and Harcourt> > Has anyone taken into >> consideration some of Piaget's theories, which > would support >> children from second grade on down being "less likely" to > consider >> an assortment of ideas at the same time? I am not trying to > >> denigrate the abilities of children, but what kind of comprehension >> are > we looking for? Not counting the "word callers" and >> "phonicators" who > trip gayly through text and then look at you >> blankly, I'm wondering if > we aren't asking the "average kid" to >> know, do, and say more than they > are developmentally ready for? >> Can't we just let them enjoy a story any > more? Maybe tell us about >> their favorite part?> > Please don't lecture me on standards. I'm >> talking about real kids.> > Renee> > > On Feb 13, 2008, at 5:30 AM, >> Patricia Kimathi wrote:> > > I agree I see the same thing with my >> gifted 2nd graders. Comprehension> > seems a mystery. This has been a >> struggle, but we are almost there> > Patricia Kimathi> > Mission >> Parent Representative> > California Association for the Gifted> > >> 8465 South Van Ness Avenue> > Inglewood, CA 90305> > Phone: >> 323.750.6559> > Fax: 323.292.3626> > Serving gifted students,> > >> parents, teachers, and administrators> > of Los Angeles County> > On >> Feb 11, 2008, at 6:19 PM, Bonita DeAmicis wrote:> >> >>> >> ---- >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:> >>> I teach gifted 5th graders, but have >> taught regular 3rd through 5th> >>> as well> >>> as gifted 3rd >> through 5th. Having my reading endorsement, I too am> >>> surprised> >> >>> by the word callers at the beginning of the year. This year I >> was> >>> especially surprised because my class did not seem to think >> that> >>> comprehension was> >>> important. Can you imagine?> >>> >> >> It is my theory (totally unproven) that the trend toward testing and> >> >> basals has hurried our students into fluent reading (ie word >> calling)> >> at the expense of comprehension. The problem of studen! > ts who c > an> >> sound out, read smoothly, and have no clue what it means, has > grown in> >> recent years at the upper grades. I look forward to a > return to> >> balance...> >>> >> :)Bonita> >>> >> > _______________________________________________> >> Mosaic mailing > list> >> Mosaic@literacyworkshop.org> >> To unsubscribe or modify your > membership please go to> >> > http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/> >> > mosaic_literacyworkshop.org.> >>> >> Search the MOSAIC archives at > http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive.> >>> > > _______________________________________________> > Mosaic mailing > list> > Mosaic@literacyworkshop.org> > To unsubscribe or modify your > membership please go to> > > http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/ > > > mosaic_literacyworkshop.org.> >> > Search the MOSAIC archives at > http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive.> >> >> "We the People of the United > States, in Order to form a more perfect > Union, establish Justice, > insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the > common defence, promote > the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings > of Liberty to > ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this > > Constitution for the United States of America."> > > > > _______________________________________________> Mosaic mailing list> > Mosaic@literacyworkshop.org> To unsubscribe or modify your membership > please go to> > http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/ > mosaic_literacyworkshop.org.> > Search the MOSAIC archives at > http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive. > > _________________________________________________________________ > Shed those extra pounds with MSN and The Biggest Loser! > http://biggestloser.msn.com/ > _______________________________________________ > Mosaic mailing list > Mosaic@literacyworkshop.org > To unsubscribe or modify your membership please go to > http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/ > mosaic_literacyworkshop.org. > > Search the MOSAIC archives at http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive. > > "Sometimes it's a little better to travel than to arrive." ~ Robert Pirsig _______________________________________________ Mosaic mailing list Mosaic@literacyworkshop.org To unsubscribe or modify your membership please go to http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/mosaic_literacyworkshop.org. Search the MOSAIC archives at http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive.