yeah it is not clear whether it is just athlon 64's. i.e. those
machines formerly called K9.

My Turion would probably also be just fine.

Bill.

2009/3/4  <ja...@njkfrudils.plus.com>:
>
> On Wednesday 04 March 2009 16:29:30 Bill Hart wrote:
>> My guess would be stalls due to unavailability of data from the cache
>> in time for the pipeline. Some insertions of nop's would probably make
>> this go away. That may or may not affect the timings on Opteron.
>>
>> I suspect it is only an issue on cheaper processors like the Athlon 64
>> x2 and Turion 64 x2. I have one of the latter, and it would be
>> interesting to try out. I have linux on this machine so I could
>> possibly give it a go. But it might be tomorrow before I get to it.
>>
>> I also have an Athlon 64 x2 at home.
>>
>> It's not clear how much effort we should expend on optimisation for
>> home market PC's. I'm not saying we shouldn't do it. I'm just saying
>> it is not clear how much we should do for it.
>>
>> Bill.
>
> My K8(sempron) cost less than two pizza's , and it runs addmul just great.
> K8 £15
> m/b £23
> mem £8
> rest of the system is crap
> - Show quoted text -
>>
>> 2009/3/4  <ja...@njkfrudils.plus.com>:
>> > - Show quoted text -
>> >
>> > On Wednesday 04 March 2009 15:57:25 Cactus wrote:
>> >> On Mar 4, 3:49 pm, ja...@njkfrudils.plus.com wrote:
>> >> > On Wednesday 04 March 2009 15:40:04 Bill Hart wrote:
>> >> > > This is on a K10. The runs differ significantly. Interesting.
>> >> > >
>> >> > > It might have to do with the almost completely unpredictable
>> >> > > scheduling on the K10. Certainly the differences at limb n are
>> >> > > almost always made up again, or nearly so, at limb n+1, and by the
>> >> > > end of 40 limbs the times are usually within a cycle or so. On
>> >> > > average performance doesn't vary.
>> >> > >
>> >> > > Bill.
>> >> >
>> >> > My K8 is very stable, the K10(cuda1) a bit less so , and I found the
>> >> > core2 (sage.math) to be all over the place . You could try increasing
>> >> > the precision , yet again.
>> >> >
>> >> > > 2009/3/4 Jeff Gilchrist <jeff.gilchr...@gmail.com>:
>> >> > > > On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 10:27 AM, Bill Hart
>> >> > > > <goodwillh...@googlemail.com>
>> >> >
>> >> > wrote:
>> >> > > >> I've just noticed that the times from speed are not consistent
>> >> > > >> between runs!! I thought that was almost impossible.
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > > I did several runs on my systems and they all agreed for me, even
>> >> > > > when the system was loaded or not.
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > > Jeff.
>> >> > > > - Show quoted text -
>> >>
>> >> I do see some variation on my Core 2 portable but my Athlon X2 gives
>> >> consistent results. The variation on the Core 2 is not large enough to
>> >> worry about.
>> >>
>> >> By the way, does anyone have a theory about the mpn_mul_1 curve (2nd
>> >> to bottom) that goes up and down regularly?
>> >
>> > thats the green line , your windows K8
>> >
>> > mpn_mul_1 and mpn_addmul_1 on K8 are the same function(practically) , but
>> > the addmul doesn't display that behavour.
>> > - Show quoted text -
>> >
>> >>      Brian
>>
>>
>
>
> >
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