On 5/19/14 10:01 PM, Sampo Syreeni wrote:
On 2014-05-08, Risto Holopainen wrote:

[...] I recall a composer collegue once complaining about repetition in the noise generator of Csound. I think they used a random generator with period 2^16 in those days, but it's been improved now.

That's precisely where I landed with this thing, originally. My PRNG wasn't Csound's but Turbo Pascal's. Still, a linear conguential generator with 16 bit state.

That's unusable because you can hear the repetition. But the real question is, *why* *can* you hear it?

um, because it repeats?  like nearly every second?

What's the neural mechanism which lets you such long term structure even in fully randomized sound? What does it tell you about human hearing, and its theory, and the limits of that theory, precisely?

given any short set of random numbers, if you look at a shorter subset of it, you will see that some particular frequency components will stand out more than others. you will hear those frequency components pop out at you. likely you won't notice or make a mental note of it because the next second, some other component at a different frequency will pop out.

but if the sequence repeats every 65535/44100 second these temporal artifacts of the random signal will certainly be noticed.


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