If you read the newsletter and more of the info at mandrake.com you will find 
that mandrake is claiming inproved financial status from a increase in sales and a 
cut in operating expenses part of witch involves cutting the number of employes.
  A company can not operate at a loss even a small one for ever and if you look at 
all the details you will find that they have been operating at a loss for quite some 
time. Mandrake does project operating at no loss or a small profit by Jan 1
   The current trend of increased sales and cut operating expenses seem to confirm 
that. Lets face it operating at a loss for a extended  period of time once the money 
runs out it is all over and the doors close for ever. Mandrake is takeing what ever 
steps it takes to stop that from happening. Maybe after sales increase enough they 
will be able to bring GREAT folks like civilme back into the workforce.
    Meanwhile it is a shame tthat people like civilme get caught in the middle.
  If everything that I have read at mandrake.com is true I doubt that management is 
to happy about these layoffs.
   I think that in a year or 2 Mandrake will be turned around and hireing on as 
many people as it takes to make the best possible linux distro, not that they have 
not been doing a great job so far but they seem to have streached their cash 
reserves  to far.
   I hope I am correct in all this but only time will tell.
   Meanwhill I wish all the best to both civilme and Mandrake

    Marc

7/30/02 11:03:03 AM, "Vincent A. Primavera" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>Hello,
>       What I don't understand is how we receive the newsletter boasting of
>such great news regarding their financial status etc. and then when it
>comes down to it they are laying off key players.  What can you really
>believe?
>--
>       Thank you,
>
>       Vincent A. Primavera.
>
>On Tue, 2002-07-30 at 14:57, frankie wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> anyone fancy starting a "Save Civilme" petition????
>> 
>> Seems a big shame that the guy who fronts to the users more then any other
>> Mandrake employee is gettting kicked..
>> 
>> Nuts for mandrake really.. since Civilme and Vincent are the two main
>> reasons these mailing lists are held in such high esteem. And these mailing
>> lists are what got Mandrake where they are now... (the good stuff I mean.)
>> 
>> He is the face (figuratively speaking) that most of associate to mandrake..
>> I don't even know the CEO's name, and I don't really want to since he
>> probably doesn't write code. :-) (and he is probably just a Suit.)
>> 
>> Lets face it, with Linux it's the knowledge we value, and for that Civilme
>> is valuable indeed.
>> 
>> 
>> rgds
>> 
>> frank
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of tek1
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2002 10:19 AM
>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Subject: Re: Fwd: [newbie] Problem with LM 9.0 - DON'T LEAVE US???
>> 
>> 
>> you will be truly missed civileme.  you have provided the user community
>> with so much help and been pivitol in the acceptance of mandrake as one of
>> the best linux distributions.  it's mandrakesoft's loss to let you go, but
>> hopefully they can bring you back quickly, as soon as things improve for
>> them.  regardless of what happens, i'm certain that great opportunities
>> await you.
>> 
>> again, thank you for all your wonderful assistance.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> >On Monday 29 July 2002 06:09 pm, you wrote:
>> > > --- civileme <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > > <snip>
>> > >
>> > > > My involvement with the fixing process is
>> > > > becoming distant as I struggle to complete a few
>> > > > more testing tools
>> > > > before my lay-off is effective.  (two days hence).
>> > > >
>> > > > Civileme
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> ----
>> 
>
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>> Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
>
>
>
>
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