Exactly! At the very least they could redo the ISO's on-line. If you are going to the small effort to do so, it probably would be best to leave the the smaller-sized ISO set as an 'additional' choice instead of replacing the ones that they have already done the work in creating. With future releases, it would make sense to have only the smaller-sized ones available.
Creating a new Powerpack or ProSuite creates additional costs that may be beyond their budget this time around. I could accept this, knowing that they will change this in the future. A judicial word or two on the 'problem' within the marketing end of the Mandrake Web site would handle the current 'problem' for now, with a promise to make future editions in the smaller size for as long as the need seems to be there. It becomes our responsibility then, as Mandrake's most loyal and dedicated group of users, to inform them of when the 650 MB limit has gone the way of the Dodo. I see this is a lack of awareness on Mandrake's part, not their failure to so something right. Unless someone(s) make it known to them that there are quite a few users out there that cannot use the first CDs or ISO's because of their size, nothing will be done about it. I would be more than happy to write that requesting email or letter, if I thought that only my voice was enough incentive for them to make the change(s) necessary. It seems unlikely that my is enough, all by itself. What do you think, Ed? T et wrote: > well, to be honest, I have often found that sitting back and expecting "the > same" from almost any group works best as far as predicting behavior. as long > as "the same" is a long record of attempting excellence within the realm of > "Open Source" and/or "GNU", I see no reason to expect any less. I do agree > that as far as a powerpack or prosuite, I would hope they could do the math > over and figure that they have enough space left on the 3rd cd to make the > first 2 isos down to 650 for the pressed and sale versions. I know it would > cut into the pool of potential purchasers if the box needs to note that it > only runs on computers with a CD reader newer than the last 2 years. > that said, why not redo the ISOs and post a location to find them? > > > On Sunday 06 October 2002 08:15 am, you wrote: > >>Your welcome, Brian! I'm glad you found what your problem was. Now, what >>do you (and I who also have a CD-RW in my Linux 8.2 machine that won't >>read 700 MB CDs properly) and the others with this problem do about it? >> >>It seems that this will be a reoccurring theme until all of us get rid >>of our older CD-ROM/DVD-ROM/CD-RW drives. However, this might be a good >>opportunity to rally together as a group of users who feel that a change >>needs to be made. There's no reason beyond convenience for Mandrake (I >>include the very obvious cost factor of burning, packaging and shipping >>out one extra CD as part of this) to have any of the distribution disks >>larger than 650 MBs. ....At least for a little while longer. Mandrake >>would be sympathetic to our needs if they knew that there were enough >>users suffering from this problem. If a few of us make our thoughts >>known, we might get a second set of ISOs on-line. If a LOT of us make >>our needs very real to them, they might even see the logic of >>commercially producing a second set of CDS. >> >>We represent their proud and elite. We make them what they are by our >>presence on their listserv, helping users learn to get the most from >>their product. Our devoted and dedicated, not to mention the very fact >>that we choice their distribution over others, makes us their front >>line. They are aware of this, and I'm sure that they care. >>However....enough of us have to voice our concerns to make it be known >>to them that this is bigger concern than they might have once thought. >>Otherwise, things will continue on as they are and those of us with >>older drives on our Linux machines will have to buy new drives, find >>ways to reverse engineer the ISOs, or install in another way. We >>shouldn't have to do this. We shouldn't have to replace a good working >>piece of hardware (supported by the distro, at that!) just to install a >>newer version. Not yet. Not until our old machines are like 286 >>doorstops, I would think. >> >>Those of you who have been here longer than me must know of a proper way >>to make this request in numbers. I urge everyone, even those who are not >>plagued with this problem, to band together and let Mandrake know that >>we are hurting for change: a very small change that is possible and >>manageable. We do it right, with respect, but with an obvious >>underlining strength derived from need. >> >>Now that I have everyone's attention and the word "mutiny" being >>murmured is being whispered within the gathered crowd, does anyone have >>an productive ideas as to how we should make such a respectful plea to >>Mandrake with the greasiest impact possible? >> >>"All for one, and one for all!" >>(Sorry for that...I just recently >>watched the movie, "The Musketeer".) :-D >> >>Rabble-Rousing T > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
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