On Sat, 2003-09-13 at 13:10, Benjamin Pflugmann wrote:
> Hi!
> 
> On Mon 2003-09-01 at 00:00:59 +0300, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >    I was at the frozen bubble game site and there was this bit about 
> > free software:
> > 
> > "
> > 
> > Free software is a very interesting (and important) concept. It was 
> > brought to mankind by Richard M. Stallman, the founder of the Free 
> > Software Foundation <http://www.fsf.org/>. Free software is copyrighted 
> > software with special licensing terms (the GPL, "General Public 
> > License") that allow users to copy, ameliorate, and redistribute 
> > software as long as the licensing terms don't restrict those rights.
> > 
> > Too many people simply "refuse" to see the ideology behind free software 
> > (unfortunately, that's the case of Linus Torvalds, the Linux kernel 
> > author). Free software is not only good quality software. Free software 
> > tells you that your freedom is valuable. It tells you that it's good for 
> > a society when people can share good software with friends, without 
> > being stopped by a license refusing you this right, and can 
> > ameliorate/bugfix programs if they are technically literate. It tells 
> > you that proprietary software is taking away your freedom.
> > 
> > Because of these reasons, please promote and use Free Software.
> > 
> >     ... please somebody explain to what's that part about Linus 
> > Torvalds ... I thought he was the founder of Linux ... and suporter of 
> > free software .. & stuff lik that ...
> 
> This is in reference to statements from Linus Torvalds such as:
> (taken from: http://lwn.net/2002/0425/a/ideology-sucks.php3)
> 
>   Quite frankly, I don't _want_ people using Linux for ideological
>   reasons.  I think ideology sucks. This world would be a much better
>   place if people had less ideology, and a whole lot more "I do this
>   because it's FUN and because others might find it useful, not
>   because I got religion".
> 
> So the statement above doesn't mean that Linus Torvalds hasn't done a
> a lot for the free software community. It just means, that he didn't
> do it with ideology as his primary motive. Linux wasn't created
> because he wanted to replace something, but because he thought it was
> fun to do.
> 
> In contrast, GNU software has been created purely for ideologic
> reasons. Already the name GNU (GNU's Not Unix) gives it away: it was
> set out to be a replacement for the proprietary Unixes.
> 
> Regards,
> 
>       Benjamin.

Benjamin

I see you point and I agree with you, but I'd like to add something else
to the stew. For what it is worth.

We are political and ideological beings and there is no escaping from
it. If you do something because you believe it is fun and it may help
people have fun it' s an ideological viewpoint. Paradoxically. So we
could call it the ideology of fun. Ideology is a way through which we
see the world. Ancient peoples like the greeks thought a mountain was a
sacred place where the gods lived. In our times, a mountain is just a
place where people can extract minerals from. See what i mean ?

I also think that people wanted to keep the name short. So "Linux" is
much better than "GNU/Linux" for marketing, etc.

JM

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