Hi thanks for all your help anyway, hopefully I have solved the problem. I thought I would just let you know in case someone else has the same problem. As you know I tried every thing to get lilo to work, then it suddenly hit me.. I had installed a DVD recently and with rearranging the leads had got my second HD connected as a slave but on the secondary ide port, I changed the leads around to make my second HD on the primary but as the slave and it all works fine now. Lilo will boot either win98 or Mandrake perfectly now. Thanks again Mike
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