I don't care what anyone says...Assembler is just plain awesome!
Mark
Vic wrote:
>
> I remember assembler code for the old Z80,
> well I don't remember all the codes but I remember
> a few of the nemonnics, like DJNZ and NOP.
>
> I could make a lot of neat little programs
> with it, like a burglar alarm and telephone
> answering voice mail system control box,
> as well as have it control a central office
> box as in "inter-office" not public.
>
> On Tue, 03 Oct 2000, Mark Weaver wrote:
> > Holy hanna Ozz! come on man! talk more assembler to me! maybe I'm sick,
> > but I really like that language.
> >
> > --
> > Mark
> > ~~~
> > ...someone once asked Annie Sullivan what she saw in a man she was
> > cconsidering as perspective suiter who had a terrible case of acne.
> > Annie was reported to have replied, "His face is an easy read!"
> >
> > On Sun, 1 Oct 2000 3:25pm ,Austin L. Denyer spake passionately in a message:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > > Ha! I know tricks like that one too! I had a machine like that, and wrote
> > > > a simple but functioning accounting system in it :)
> > >
> > > One of my colleagues once tried to write a program to calculate the
> > > performance characteristics of large-bore oil hoses, and ran out of memory
> > > on a 16k machine. I then wrote the thing myself in ... wait for it ... 450
> > > BYTES!!!!! Needless to say, it was completely devoid of any eye candy, but
> > > it worked (well, I wrote it in an evening...)
> > >
> > > Out of interest, what machines were you using? How long ago?
> > >
> > > > Hahahaha!! Memories are coming back indeed... And even where you needed
> > > > more speed than the machine could actually deliver, you'd have to fool the
> > > > processor, or invent strange code to steal a cycle here or there...
> > >
> > > Oh yes. Some of the memory saving tricks were neat too. I used to use
> > > existing constants to save precious register space (pi/pi for 1, pi-pi for
> > > 0, etc.). Another advantage to programming at that level was this:
> > >
> > > You knew the value of each op. code.
> > >
> > > You knew the location in which you stored it in memory.
> > >
> > > Therefore, you could use these codes for constants too.
> > >
> > > For example, if the instruction LDA (LoaD Accumulator) was 0fh (15 decimal)
> > > and you had stored that instruction in memory location 02ff, then you could
> > > call the value 15 by pointing to 02ff.
> > >
> > > Self-modifying code was fun too, especially when someone else tried to parse
> > > it #;-D
> > >
> > > > I agree. People that learn to program these days, on visual such and so,
> > > > can't understand that you can write a complete program in less than
> > > > 500Kbytes.
> > >
> > > I can't wait to get back into it with Linux.
> > >
> > > One of these days....
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Ozz.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
