=============Sridhar:
I never said that Windos users didn't have bad habits. The issue here is
that
my idea of "bad habits" differs slightly from yours. In my opinion, a
"bad
habit" is something that locks you into something, whether you like it
or
not.
-----yhs
I am locked into bad mouse support by 2-button mouse users. Linux mouse
support is hardly configurable at all. I have seen the sawfish mouse
dialog. Ridiculous.
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I like the configurabliity of Linux, and it is
getting better all the time. We need to have a starting point,
----yhs
A starting point is to configure 7 logical mouse buttons. Developers
should be able to assume that the user has access to at least 7 buttons.
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and for
simplicity this should be similar to that of other popular OSs, in order
to win support. With time, however, we will break free
-------yhs
Never happen.
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of these
so-called "bad habits" and have a fully configurable OS. WMs like
Enlightenment and Sawfish are doing this already. It will take a while
--------yhs
forever
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for this to happen to KDE, however, since it is made to be easy for
people migrating from M$-land.
-------yhs
The greater problem is that the qt library was intended to build windows
programs as well as kde. That means that kde will *never* develop decent
mouse support. Not as long as some form of W$ exists. As I said before,
the gnome developers do not have that excuse. They are afraid to be
different from kde. X has always used the middle mouse button, but there
has been no progress, and kde even caused a step or two backward. You
will notice that the middle mouse button is *finally* useful on a scroll
bar *again* in netscape the way it used to be on the first x scrollbars,
but the 3 button does nothing when it used to scroll backward in x. Also
the 1 % 2 buttons do the same thing on the little triangles at the ends
of the sb's, and the 3 button does nothing. This is progress?
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OS/2 failed for a number of reasons.
---------yhs
The most important was not ibm's mistakes, which were many, but M$
thuggish and illegal marketing, which was nothing short of extortion.
They have been tried and found guilty by judge Jackson. BG is a
criminal, and M$ is a criminal enterprise. BG will stay out of prison
but he belongs in one. (My government is so corrupt that it will commit
even acts of war and mass murder to help tyrants *if* they are rich. It
is not about to drag Gates into a criminal court.)
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Besides diehard OS/2 fans,
------yhs
Not me, but right button drag is better, because you can both open
progs with one click and select multiple icons in a rectangle for
dragging. While some os2 progs required the middle mouse button, they
also allowed 1-2 as an alternative, thus crippling good mouse support.
The linux developers have learned nothing from this, and since millions
of suckers have bought ms mice shouldn't the little wheels be good for
something besides *scrolling ms word documents*???
If anyonne still has a 2-button mouse, for God's sake *throw it out*
with your DD 5.25" diskettes! Let Santa bring you a *real* mouse. (The
wheel counts if you can click it.)
I use the big logitech 4 button ball, because I use two keyboards at
once (one midi) and therefore I like a mouse that stays put. I tape
it down, so it won't drop on the floor (anymore). It's a great thing,
though it costs the earth. How many logical buttons is that?
15.
I wouldn't mind a touchpad too. ;-)
.daveA
