I would like to say that Mandrake properly configured my Microsoft
InteiMouse, All 5 buttons and the wheel from install, not to mention the
fact that it is also USB.

Mark Hillary
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From: "David Raleigh Arnold" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2000 7:17 AM
Subject: Re: [newbie] gates gets Linux


> =============Sridhar:
> I never said that Windos users didn't have bad habits. The issue here is
> that
> my idea of "bad habits" differs slightly from yours. In my opinion, a
> "bad
> habit" is something that locks you into something, whether you like it
> or
> not.
> -----yhs
> I am locked into bad mouse support by 2-button mouse users. Linux mouse
> support is hardly configurable at all. I have seen the sawfish mouse
> dialog. Ridiculous.
> ==============
> I like the configurabliity of Linux, and it is
> getting better all the time. We need to have a starting point,
> ----yhs
> A starting point is to configure 7 logical mouse buttons. Developers
> should be able to assume that the user has access to at least 7 buttons.
> ===================
> and for
> simplicity this should be similar to that of other popular OSs, in order
> to win support. With time, however, we will break free
> -------yhs
> Never happen.
> =============
> of these
> so-called "bad habits" and have a fully configurable OS. WMs like
> Enlightenment and Sawfish are doing this already. It will take a while
> --------yhs
> forever
> ===============
> for this to happen to KDE, however, since it is made to be easy for
> people migrating from M$-land.
> -------yhs
> The greater problem is that the qt library was intended to build windows
> programs as well as kde. That means that kde will *never* develop decent
> mouse support. Not as long as some form of W$ exists. As I said before,
> the gnome developers do not have that excuse. They are afraid to be
> different from kde. X has always used the middle mouse button, but there
> has been no progress, and kde even caused a step or two backward. You
> will notice that the middle mouse button is *finally* useful on a scroll
> bar *again* in netscape the way it used to be on the first x scrollbars,
> but the 3 button does nothing when it used to scroll backward in x. Also
> the 1 % 2 buttons do the same thing on the little triangles at the ends
> of the sb's, and the 3 button does nothing. This is progress?
> ==================
> OS/2 failed for a number of reasons.
> ---------yhs
> The most important was not ibm's mistakes, which were many, but M$
> thuggish and illegal marketing, which was nothing short of extortion.
> They have been tried and found guilty by judge Jackson. BG is a
> criminal, and M$ is a criminal enterprise. BG will stay out of prison
> but he belongs in one. (My government is so corrupt that it will commit
> even acts of war and mass murder to help tyrants *if* they are rich. It
> is not about to drag Gates into a criminal court.)
> ================
> Besides diehard OS/2 fans,
> ------yhs
> Not me, but right button drag is better, because you can both open
> progs with one click and select multiple icons in a rectangle for
> dragging. While some os2 progs required the middle mouse button, they
> also allowed 1-2 as an alternative, thus crippling good mouse support.
> The linux developers have learned nothing from this, and since millions
> of suckers have bought ms mice shouldn't the little wheels be good for
> something besides *scrolling ms word documents*???
>
> If anyonne still has a 2-button mouse, for God's sake *throw it out*
> with your DD 5.25" diskettes! Let Santa bring you a *real* mouse. (The
> wheel counts if you can click it.)
>
> I use the big logitech 4 button ball, because I use two keyboards at
> once (one midi) and therefore I like a mouse that stays put. I tape
> it down, so it won't drop on the floor (anymore). It's a great thing,
> though it costs the earth. How many logical buttons is that?
>
> 15.
>
> I wouldn't mind a touchpad too. ;-)
>
> .daveA
>
>
>


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