civileme wrote:

> Marcia wrote:
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>> Dear All,
>>
>> Thank you for your comments about upgrading. I am still window 
>> shopping and comparing barebone kits running Athlon XP's. Sometimes I 
>> see OEM and I really do not know what that means.
>>
>> I am comparing a Jetway 830CF Barebones w/AMD XP 1600+ CPU and PC 
>> Chips 817LR Athlon Socket-A Ali Chipset, DDR/SDRAM support. My 
>> son-in-law said to stay away from Duron. It sounds like many of you 
>> use Duron though without a problem. The Jetway 830CF is being offered 
>> for 229.00 I believe while the other one is being offered for 151.00 
>> which includes shipping. I really do not have the know-how to make a 
>> good comparison. I was told that they both work with Linux. Anyone 
>> know anything about the PC Chips 817LR Athlon Socket-A ALi Chipset?
>> Any help or suggestions will be greatly appreciated. Thank you very 
>> much.
>>
>> Sincerely,
>>
>> Marcia
>>
> Yes the ALi chipset has a broken clock which can sometimes corrupt the 
> filesystems and make it difficult to run BT848 video capture and TV 
> cards.  Besides that, PCChips does not have one of the better 
> reputations in the industry though I don't avoid them as strongly as I 
> did a few years ago.  BEWARE also of VIA KT266 chipsets which ALSO 
> have broken clocks.
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> Now 229 for the Board and processor seems a bit steep.  I see at 
> www.surpluscomputers.com that a barebone system based on the 830CF 
> (including case and power supply) with the AMD XP 1500 is 229.95 while 
> a mobo with the processor is 199.95. 
> Regardless of which you decide to purchase, take the plunge and get a 
> copper-bottomed heatsink with a 7000rpm fan.  The copper is less 
> likely to wear away the corners of the chip or the very thin layer of 
> special glass on top of it (actually SiO2), and the cooling is 
> absolutely essential for processor life.  Most AMD chips still do not 
> have thermal shutdown, so it is possible that yours will self-destruct 
> in thermal overload.  Whatever fan that comes with the packages should 
> be discarded or sold to a Duron owner, where cooling isn't such a 
> critical task. www.directron.com has a large assortment of fans.  I 
> have been using the Dragon Orb 1, but it isn't copper-bottomed.
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OEM-->Original Equipment Manufacturer  For CPUs that means no fancy box, 
usually no fan and a very very limited warranty, all of which are 
enhanced considerably in the "retail" version for $20% more money.

Civileme




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