On Nov 5, 11:29 am, Ken Egozi <[email protected]> wrote:
> @Frans - what the hell is wrong with you? did I offend you in any way? I am
> sorry if I did, that was not my intention, even though you probably deserve
> this.

I was, and still am just so f*cking tired about the bickering towards
me about svn. The constant whining about why svn is not great etc. and
I apparently didn't have a clue. That was totally NOT the point I was
trying to make, and I am explaining that for a dozen posts already. My
point was about code reviews. I simply tried to help Torkel, which was
a reason for you to again show me how wrong I am about svn. So 1) I
tried to help someone, I invested time in that, why is it a reason for
you to reply to that the way you did? and 2) no, I am not here to
defend SVN, like I said: I don't give a f*ck what you think about svn,
I was trying to make a point about _code reviews_.

It's all just insanely annoying. Here I am, trying to participate in a
serious discussion, using serious arguments, and it didn't go that
route, instead, it seems even absurd how I can use svn in normal daily
use.

I never had any slowdowns on svn update, but perhaps it's because we
use a lot of different repositories. I.e. it's not 1 repository and
one .sln file, but at least 8. Like I said, svn supports folder based
checkouts, use them. It's the same with 'oh my vs.net is so slow
because the 40+project solution loads so slow'. No, this isn't a
remark to defend SVN, but to help out.

Anyway, like I said, enough is enough, I don't need constant
bickering, my time is too valuable for me. On github AND bitbucket,
the NH source code is forked, the one on bitbucket seems to be
actively kept up to date even. I think you all should simply bite the
bullet and take a decision and act accordingly. If all of you want to
move, move. YES that takes tremendous effort in stuff around the
codebase, but after that you get what you want.

Just crying in this thread how great <insert scm of choice> is, is
easy. You all seem to think that by claiming some tool as the best,
everything else simply falls into place. But someone has to make the
move, people. Not just all look at Fabio and wait what he decides, as
I can understand he's reluctant to make this move: no-one seems to be
willing to offer help in making this move so he'll have to do a lot of
work himself.

You call yourself a team? Then act like one! Offer help for the move,
if you want it so badly. Make a task list of what's to be done and
assign yourself to some tasks, ask others to step in as well and make
this happen. _IF_ you want it so badly because the world will suck
otherwise. By just whining in this thread about how sucky SVN is, is
lazy and of course nothing will change, because 'it works today' and
Fabio otherwise has to do a tremendous amount of work alone. Ever
thought about that, 'team' ? Instead of all the energy of trying to
show to the world how wrong I am about SVN, you also could have
invested that in a migration plan to github. Did anyone do that?
Wouldn't that have been a lot more productive?

@Torkel: I tried to help you as you asked a question. Apparently you
didn't want my answer, as you already knew what was better. You asked
why I didn't have a problem, and I honestly replied with what we do.
If that apparently seems a lie to you, what else can I do? Do you
really think we can create / ship software with sucky sourcecontrol
which doesn't work? No. If you didn't want my answer, it would have
been great if you would have said that in the first place, so I would
have saved myself the time replying to you. Think about that next time
you ask someone a question, ok?

I've decided to leave this list because after this thread it occurred
to me it's not really valuable to invest time on this mailinglist. So
after this post I'll.

FB

> Get your act together please.
>
> On Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 11:43 AM, Richard Brown (gmail) <
>
> [email protected]> wrote:
> > No abuse please.
>
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