ah.. I forgot something... If somebody need the local svn-mirror to fork NHibernate even in GoogleCode and/or in CodePlex let me know; I will be happy to provide it.
On Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 2:12 PM, Fabio Maulo <[email protected]> wrote: > Only as another opinion > http://martinfowler.com/bliki/FeatureBranch.html > > > On Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 2:03 PM, Fabio Maulo <[email protected]> wrote: > >> I did ;) >> I have a full history updated, the fork in bitbukect came from my files >> uploaded in sky-drive. >> We are ready to make the move at any moment but that is not the real >> matter... as you said the matter is what will happen after make the move and >> I'm scared by big pull requests instead little patches, pull requests >> without follow some rules (related issue ticket, and not only superficial >> tests). >> I'm scared about the management and the future quality... >> The core is not a compendium of "plug-ins" and even if we have already >> 2700 tests (utest and mostly integration tests) we know that we have a lot >> of situations without a test. A very little change may end in a disaster and >> I don't like to run behind disasters... (don't ask me an example because I >> have more than one and I would avoid the relation between "disaster" and >> person). There are time where I made a code review without apply the >> patch... >> >> I have already some OSS projects under Mercurial but they are not >> NHibernate. >> NHibernate is neither a pleasure nor a way of being known in .NET's >> ecosystem; >> NHibernate is a very BIG responsibility and it was and it is a very >> troublesome PITA (I felt anchored to NH many many times). >> >> btw I'm pretty sure we will move to a DVCS soon... >> because I don't like dictatorial environments (I don't like a personal >> fork as the main line) we can interpreter the "move" as: the anarchy is >> closer. >> >> bah?!?!? perhaps today is a special day.... definitively I have to take a >> walk with my personal and best advisor (my shnauzer Fiamma). >> >> >> On Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 1:13 PM, Frans Bouma <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> On Nov 5, 11:29 am, Ken Egozi <[email protected]> wrote: >>> > @Frans - what the hell is wrong with you? did I offend you in any way? >>> I am >>> > sorry if I did, that was not my intention, even though you probably >>> deserve >>> > this. >>> >>> I was, and still am just so f*cking tired about the bickering towards >>> me about svn. The constant whining about why svn is not great etc. and >>> I apparently didn't have a clue. That was totally NOT the point I was >>> trying to make, and I am explaining that for a dozen posts already. My >>> point was about code reviews. I simply tried to help Torkel, which was >>> a reason for you to again show me how wrong I am about svn. So 1) I >>> tried to help someone, I invested time in that, why is it a reason for >>> you to reply to that the way you did? and 2) no, I am not here to >>> defend SVN, like I said: I don't give a f*ck what you think about svn, >>> I was trying to make a point about _code reviews_. >>> >>> It's all just insanely annoying. Here I am, trying to participate in a >>> serious discussion, using serious arguments, and it didn't go that >>> route, instead, it seems even absurd how I can use svn in normal daily >>> use. >>> >>> I never had any slowdowns on svn update, but perhaps it's because we >>> use a lot of different repositories. I.e. it's not 1 repository and >>> one .sln file, but at least 8. Like I said, svn supports folder based >>> checkouts, use them. It's the same with 'oh my vs.net is so slow >>> because the 40+project solution loads so slow'. No, this isn't a >>> remark to defend SVN, but to help out. >>> >>> Anyway, like I said, enough is enough, I don't need constant >>> bickering, my time is too valuable for me. On github AND bitbucket, >>> the NH source code is forked, the one on bitbucket seems to be >>> actively kept up to date even. I think you all should simply bite the >>> bullet and take a decision and act accordingly. If all of you want to >>> move, move. YES that takes tremendous effort in stuff around the >>> codebase, but after that you get what you want. >>> >>> Just crying in this thread how great <insert scm of choice> is, is >>> easy. You all seem to think that by claiming some tool as the best, >>> everything else simply falls into place. But someone has to make the >>> move, people. Not just all look at Fabio and wait what he decides, as >>> I can understand he's reluctant to make this move: no-one seems to be >>> willing to offer help in making this move so he'll have to do a lot of >>> work himself. >>> >>> You call yourself a team? Then act like one! Offer help for the move, >>> if you want it so badly. Make a task list of what's to be done and >>> assign yourself to some tasks, ask others to step in as well and make >>> this happen. _IF_ you want it so badly because the world will suck >>> otherwise. By just whining in this thread about how sucky SVN is, is >>> lazy and of course nothing will change, because 'it works today' and >>> Fabio otherwise has to do a tremendous amount of work alone. Ever >>> thought about that, 'team' ? Instead of all the energy of trying to >>> show to the world how wrong I am about SVN, you also could have >>> invested that in a migration plan to github. Did anyone do that? >>> Wouldn't that have been a lot more productive? >>> >>> @Torkel: I tried to help you as you asked a question. Apparently you >>> didn't want my answer, as you already knew what was better. You asked >>> why I didn't have a problem, and I honestly replied with what we do. >>> If that apparently seems a lie to you, what else can I do? Do you >>> really think we can create / ship software with sucky sourcecontrol >>> which doesn't work? No. If you didn't want my answer, it would have >>> been great if you would have said that in the first place, so I would >>> have saved myself the time replying to you. Think about that next time >>> you ask someone a question, ok? >>> >>> I've decided to leave this list because after this thread it occurred >>> to me it's not really valuable to invest time on this mailinglist. So >>> after this post I'll. >>> >>> FB >>> >>> > Get your act together please. >>> > >>> > On Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 11:43 AM, Richard Brown (gmail) < >>> > >>> > [email protected]> wrote: >>> > > No abuse please. >>> > >>> > -- >>> > Ken Egozi. >>> http://www.kenegozi.com/bloghttp://www.delver.comhttp://www.musicglue.comhttp://www.castleproject.orghttp://www.idcc.co.il-הכנס >>> הקהילתי הראשון למפתחי דוטנט - בואו בהמוניכם >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Fabio Maulo >> >> > > > -- > Fabio Maulo > > -- Fabio Maulo
