I did ;) I have a full history updated, the fork in bitbukect came from my files uploaded in sky-drive. We are ready to make the move at any moment but that is not the real matter... as you said the matter is what will happen after make the move and I'm scared by big pull requests instead little patches, pull requests without follow some rules (related issue ticket, and not only superficial tests). I'm scared about the management and the future quality... The core is not a compendium of "plug-ins" and even if we have already 2700 tests (utest and mostly integration tests) we know that we have a lot of situations without a test. A very little change may end in a disaster and I don't like to run behind disasters... (don't ask me an example because I have more than one and I would avoid the relation between "disaster" and person). There are time where I made a code review without apply the patch...
I have already some OSS projects under Mercurial but they are not NHibernate. NHibernate is neither a pleasure nor a way of being known in .NET's ecosystem; NHibernate is a very BIG responsibility and it was and it is a very troublesome PITA (I felt anchored to NH many many times). btw I'm pretty sure we will move to a DVCS soon... because I don't like dictatorial environments (I don't like a personal fork as the main line) we can interpreter the "move" as: the anarchy is closer. bah?!?!? perhaps today is a special day.... definitively I have to take a walk with my personal and best advisor (my shnauzer Fiamma). On Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 1:13 PM, Frans Bouma <[email protected]> wrote: > On Nov 5, 11:29 am, Ken Egozi <[email protected]> wrote: > > @Frans - what the hell is wrong with you? did I offend you in any way? I > am > > sorry if I did, that was not my intention, even though you probably > deserve > > this. > > I was, and still am just so f*cking tired about the bickering towards > me about svn. The constant whining about why svn is not great etc. and > I apparently didn't have a clue. That was totally NOT the point I was > trying to make, and I am explaining that for a dozen posts already. My > point was about code reviews. I simply tried to help Torkel, which was > a reason for you to again show me how wrong I am about svn. So 1) I > tried to help someone, I invested time in that, why is it a reason for > you to reply to that the way you did? and 2) no, I am not here to > defend SVN, like I said: I don't give a f*ck what you think about svn, > I was trying to make a point about _code reviews_. > > It's all just insanely annoying. Here I am, trying to participate in a > serious discussion, using serious arguments, and it didn't go that > route, instead, it seems even absurd how I can use svn in normal daily > use. > > I never had any slowdowns on svn update, but perhaps it's because we > use a lot of different repositories. I.e. it's not 1 repository and > one .sln file, but at least 8. Like I said, svn supports folder based > checkouts, use them. It's the same with 'oh my vs.net is so slow > because the 40+project solution loads so slow'. No, this isn't a > remark to defend SVN, but to help out. > > Anyway, like I said, enough is enough, I don't need constant > bickering, my time is too valuable for me. On github AND bitbucket, > the NH source code is forked, the one on bitbucket seems to be > actively kept up to date even. I think you all should simply bite the > bullet and take a decision and act accordingly. If all of you want to > move, move. YES that takes tremendous effort in stuff around the > codebase, but after that you get what you want. > > Just crying in this thread how great <insert scm of choice> is, is > easy. You all seem to think that by claiming some tool as the best, > everything else simply falls into place. But someone has to make the > move, people. Not just all look at Fabio and wait what he decides, as > I can understand he's reluctant to make this move: no-one seems to be > willing to offer help in making this move so he'll have to do a lot of > work himself. > > You call yourself a team? Then act like one! Offer help for the move, > if you want it so badly. Make a task list of what's to be done and > assign yourself to some tasks, ask others to step in as well and make > this happen. _IF_ you want it so badly because the world will suck > otherwise. By just whining in this thread about how sucky SVN is, is > lazy and of course nothing will change, because 'it works today' and > Fabio otherwise has to do a tremendous amount of work alone. Ever > thought about that, 'team' ? Instead of all the energy of trying to > show to the world how wrong I am about SVN, you also could have > invested that in a migration plan to github. Did anyone do that? > Wouldn't that have been a lot more productive? > > @Torkel: I tried to help you as you asked a question. Apparently you > didn't want my answer, as you already knew what was better. You asked > why I didn't have a problem, and I honestly replied with what we do. > If that apparently seems a lie to you, what else can I do? Do you > really think we can create / ship software with sucky sourcecontrol > which doesn't work? No. If you didn't want my answer, it would have > been great if you would have said that in the first place, so I would > have saved myself the time replying to you. Think about that next time > you ask someone a question, ok? > > I've decided to leave this list because after this thread it occurred > to me it's not really valuable to invest time on this mailinglist. So > after this post I'll. > > FB > > > Get your act together please. > > > > On Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 11:43 AM, Richard Brown (gmail) < > > > > [email protected]> wrote: > > > No abuse please. > > > > -- > > Ken Egozi. > http://www.kenegozi.com/bloghttp://www.delver.comhttp://www.musicglue.comhttp://www.castleproject.orghttp://www.idcc.co.il-הכנס > הקהילתי הראשון למפתחי דוטנט - בואו בהמוניכם -- Fabio Maulo
