Graham, wise man you are. I definitely understand the point now. I though I would have to take the seals out to replace the springs. I did buy the seals already, and I have them at home. I will decide what to do later, probably after discussing it with Allen who offered his help, but it is good to know I can just replace the springs without taking the whole thing apart.
Javier. On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 4:39 PM, Graham Rogers <[email protected]> wrote: > Javier, I think the point is, replacing your springs is just a matter of > undoing the top nut on your forks, pulling out the old springs and popping > in the new ones. replacing the seals requires removing your forks > completely out of the frame, taking them apart, etc. The two jobs aren't > really related time or workwise. Replacing the springs doesn't get you half > way to replacing the seals. It's almost like saying you may as well replace > your front tire while you're replacing your speedometer cable. It might be > a good idea to replace your tire but replacing your cable doesn't get you > half way to replacing a tire work and time wise. Follow? > Graham > > On Jun 9, 2010, at 2:43 PM, Javier Garcia wrote: > > > Even a particular part is not broken or wear out, if I can replace it cheap > I will tent to do so. I just call a local honda dealer and they have the > seals for $26. I see no reason in spending $70 for the springs, taking the > whole thing apart and not replace the seals to save 26 bucks. They also have > the fork oil so I guess I'll get that too at the same place today. > > Javier. > > On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 10:41 AM, Allen Thomas <[email protected]>wrote: > >> True you don't NEED to replace the seals but think of it this way. If >> you dust seals are 18 years old then they are probably dry rotted and >> since I know you ride in the rain water gets past them. This rusts the >> fork tube which destroys the seal. So if you have old seals you >> probably would want to do the job right to prevent fork tube damage. >> But hats just me. As for ATF instead of fork oil... Well it's you butt >> riding it. Why would the manufacturer invent an oil when there is a >> commonly availabe standard that met the need? >> >> On 6/9/10, Anthony <[email protected]> wrote: >> > Javier, >> > >> > You do not need to replace the seals when you replace the springs.. I >> > installed progressive springs last year and did it with the forks >> > still installed on the bike. I needed to do some trigonometry to >> > calculate the oil level since the forks were on an angle and not >> > vertical as they should be when measuring the oil level. The cap on >> > each fork tube comes off. You will need a 17mm hex socket for that. >> > I used ATF in my forks. It is approx 10 wt. >> > >> > On Jun 8, 1:22 pm, Javier Garcia <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Well, apparently nobody has done the modification of the shocks. I have >> >> decided to do so. Last night I ordered a pair of progressive shocks and >> >> springs, model 412. I also ordered the progressive spring for the >> front. I >> >> assume I will need new fork seals and oil? can anyone tell me which >> ones I >> >> am supposed to buy and where? >> >> Thanks, >> >> >> >> Javier. >> >> >> >> On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 9:10 AM, Javier Garcia <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> > Randy wrote this, but I guess he made a mistake and send it only to >> me. >> >> > So >> >> > here it is. >> >> > Javier. >> >> >> >> > Randy Kilpatrick <[email protected]> >> >> >> >> > Javier, I read with interest your questions about the rear shocks. I >> >> > have a >> >> > 91 750 N.H. The front suspension is fine, but the rear of the bike >> rides >> >> > like a jackhammer! >> >> > Here is kind of what is going on. When Honda reintroduced the CB 750 >> N. >> >> > Hawk they cut a lot of corners to keep the price down. Things like no >> >> > center >> >> > stand, no 6 speed transmission, and among other things especially the >> >> > rear >> >> > shocks. These stock rear shocks are as inexpensive as Honda could >> find. >> >> > They were only fair for a few thousand miles, then the gas leaked >> out, >> >> > the >> >> > oil weeped out and we have a pair of shot shocks! I too have been >> >> > looking at >> >> > the Progressive Shocks, but man what a price! I read on one site >> where >> >> > some >> >> > one bought the lower priced Progressives and they wern"t much beter >> than >> >> > stock stuff. I also read where one guy bought the expensive rear >> shocks >> >> > and >> >> > it was a vast improvment. There is also a Chinese shock out there >> that >> >> > is >> >> > cheap, but raises the back end of the bike up, and don't work very >> well. >> >> > I >> >> > can live with the things that kind of bug me about this bike accept >> the >> >> > harsh ride. It's killing my back. Soooo, if any of you guys have >> spent >> >> > the >> >> > big bucks on the Progressives please come forth, spill the beans and >> >> > share >> >> > with us what you have done and did it really work? I too ride single >> up >> >> > and >> >> > just want a decent ride. Hondo. >> >> >> >> > On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 9:37 PM, Javier Garcia <[email protected]> >> >> > wrote: >> >> >> >> >> I'll try to get one too. Nevertheless, I doubt the problem I am >> >> >> experiencing is going to be solved by changing the adjustment of the >> >> >> shocks. >> >> >> >> >> Javier. >> >> >> >> >> On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 12:49 PM, sfox618 <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> >> >>> I bought a shock tool on eBay for about $6. Just like item number >> >> >>> Item number: 310223404095. Works really well and no scratches. >> >> >> >> >>> Sean >> >> >> >> >>> On Jun 2, 9:05 am, Javier Garcia <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >>> > Hi all, >> >> >> >> >>> > recently I've been wondering if there is something wrong with the >> >> >>> suspension >> >> >>> > of my '96 750. In short, it just feels like it balances too much >> up >> >> >>> > and >> >> >>> down >> >> >>> > in the rear as I am driving it. Actually, I am not sure if it is >> >> >>> because I >> >> >>> > am paying too much attention to this or not, but lately I've been >> >> >>> feeling >> >> >>> > that my back hearts a bit after long rides (long being more than >> an >> >> >>> hour or >> >> >>> > so). Allen drove my bike the other day for a bit I had the same >> >> >>> impression >> >> >>> > (without me telling him before). Therefore, it start crossing my >> >> >>> > mind >> >> >>> the >> >> >>> > idea of upgrading the rear suspension (and probably the front >> too, >> >> >>> > but >> >> >>> that >> >> >>> > is a separate issue). Apparently, most people agree that >> progressive >> >> >>> shocks >> >> >>> > is the way to go. However, those are not cheap, so I have few >> >> >>> questions, >> >> >>> > such as: >> >> >> >> >>> > 1) How can I actually now if my rear shocks are damaged? Is there >> a >> >> >>> more >> >> >>> > technical procedure to diagnostic this? >> >> >> >> >>> > 2) If I replace shocks, do I have to replace springs too? or it >> is >> >> >>> > just >> >> >>> > recommended? >> >> >> >> >>> > 3) Does anyone here uses or had used progressive shocks (and/or >> >> >>> springs)? >> >> >> >> >>> > 4) Is there a particular model of progressive shocks and/or >> spring >> >> >>> > that >> >> >>> need >> >> >>> > to be selected for a NH 750? There are few models, and although >> the >> >> >>> > differences in the specifications are confusing to me, the >> >> >>> > differences >> >> >>> in >> >> >>> > price are quite substantial. >> >> >> >> >>> > I would appreciate any other comments on this matter. >> >> >>> > Cheers, >> >> >> >> >>> > Javier. >> >> >> >> >>> -- >> >> >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> >> >>> Groups >> >> >>> "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. >> >> >>> To post to this group, send email to >> >> >>> [email protected]. >> >> >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> >> >>> [email protected]<nighthawk_lovers%[email protected]> >> <nighthawk_lovers%[email protected]<nighthawk_lovers%[email protected]> >> > >> >> >>> . >> >> >>> For more options, visit this group at >> >> >>>http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. >> > >> > -- >> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups >> > "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. >> > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> > [email protected]<nighthawk_lovers%[email protected]> >> . >> > For more options, visit this group at >> > http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. >> > >> > >> >> -- >> Sent from my mobile device >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected]<nighthawk_lovers%[email protected]> >> . >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. >> >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]<nighthawk_lovers%[email protected]> > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. 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