Sure thing, just send an email when you are in the area, we can have a drink
or something. I wish I had another NH to land you one and then go for a
ride.

Javier.

On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 6:11 PM, <[email protected]> wrote:

> That sounds like a plan that I could agree with.... Goes with the idea of
> "if it ain't broke don't fix it".... Keep them handy.... Btw I will be going
> "home" the end of next month... I will be leaving the bike in Florida, but
> anybody in the b-more/ dc area want to hang out I would love to meet fellow
> nighthawkers... But you would have to come to bowie to meet
>
> Sent from my iPod
>
> On Jun 9, 2010, at 6:04 PM, Graham Rogers <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Javier, if your seals aren't leaking  - don't replace them.  You have new
> ones on hand when they do.
>
> On Jun 9, 2010, at 5:56 PM, Javier Garcia wrote:
>
> Graham,
> wise man you are. I definitely understand the point now. I though I would
> have to take the seals out to replace the springs. I did buy the seals
> already, and I have them at home.  I will decide what to do later, probably
> after discussing it with Allen who offered his help, but it is good to know
> I can just replace the springs without taking the whole thing apart.
>
> Javier.
>
>
> On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 4:39 PM, Graham Rogers < <[email protected]>
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Javier,  I think the point is, replacing your springs is just a matter of
>> undoing the top nut on your forks, pulling out the old springs and popping
>> in the new ones.  replacing the seals requires  removing your forks
>> completely out of the frame, taking them apart, etc.  The two jobs aren't
>> really related time or workwise.  Replacing the springs doesn't get you half
>> way to replacing the seals.  It's almost like saying you may as well replace
>> your front tire while you're replacing your speedometer cable.  It might be
>> a good idea to replace your tire but replacing your cable doesn't get you
>> half way to replacing a tire work and time wise.  Follow?
>> Graham
>>
>> On Jun 9, 2010, at 2:43 PM, Javier Garcia wrote:
>>
>>
>> Even a particular part is not broken or wear out, if I can replace it
>> cheap I will tent to do so. I just call a local honda dealer and they have
>> the seals for $26. I see no reason in spending $70 for the springs, taking
>> the whole thing apart and not replace the seals to save 26 bucks. They also
>> have the fork oil so I guess I'll get that too at the same place today.
>>
>> Javier.
>>
>> On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 10:41 AM, Allen Thomas < <[email protected]>
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> True you don't NEED to replace the seals but think of it this way. If
>>> you dust seals are 18 years old then they are probably dry rotted and
>>> since I know you ride in the rain water gets past them. This rusts the
>>> fork tube which destroys the seal. So if you have old seals you
>>> probably would want to do the job right to prevent fork tube damage.
>>> But hats just me. As for ATF instead of fork oil... Well it's you butt
>>> riding it. Why would the manufacturer invent an oil when there is a
>>> commonly availabe standard that met the need?
>>>
>>> On 6/9/10, Anthony < <[email protected]>[email protected]> wrote:
>>> > Javier,
>>> >
>>> > You do not need to replace the seals when you replace the springs..  I
>>> > installed progressive springs last year and did it with the forks
>>> > still installed on the bike.  I needed to do some trigonometry to
>>> > calculate the oil level since the forks were on an angle and not
>>> > vertical as they should be when measuring the oil level.   The cap on
>>> > each fork tube comes off.  You will need a 17mm hex socket for that.
>>> > I used ATF in my forks.  It is approx 10 wt.
>>> >
>>> > On Jun 8, 1:22 pm, Javier Garcia <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> >> Well, apparently nobody has done the modification of the shocks. I
>>> have
>>> >> decided to do so. Last night I ordered a pair of progressive shocks
>>> and
>>> >> springs, model 412. I also ordered the progressive spring for the
>>> front. I
>>> >> assume I will need new fork seals and oil? can anyone tell me which
>>> ones I
>>> >> am supposed to buy and where?
>>> >> Thanks,
>>> >>
>>> >> Javier.
>>> >>
>>> >> On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 9:10 AM, Javier Garcia <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>> >> > Randy wrote this, but I guess he made a mistake and send it only to
>>> me.
>>> >> > So
>>> >> > here it is.
>>> >> > Javier.
>>> >>
>>> >> > Randy Kilpatrick <[email protected]>
>>> >>
>>> >> > Javier, I read with interest your questions about the rear shocks. I
>>> >> > have a
>>> >> > 91 750 N.H. The front suspension is fine, but the rear of the bike
>>> rides
>>> >> > like a jackhammer!
>>> >> > Here is kind of what is going on. When Honda reintroduced the CB 750
>>> N.
>>> >> > Hawk they cut a lot of corners to keep the price down. Things like
>>> no
>>> >> > center
>>> >> > stand, no 6 speed transmission, and among other things especially
>>> the
>>> >> > rear
>>> >> > shocks. These  stock rear shocks are as inexpensive as Honda could
>>> find.
>>> >> > They were only fair for a few thousand miles, then the gas leaked
>>> out,
>>> >> > the
>>> >> > oil weeped out and we have a pair of shot shocks! I too have been
>>> >> > looking at
>>> >> > the Progressive Shocks, but man what a price! I read on one site
>>> where
>>> >> > some
>>> >> > one bought the lower priced Progressives and they wern"t much beter
>>> than
>>> >> > stock stuff. I also read where one guy bought the expensive rear
>>> shocks
>>> >> > and
>>> >> > it was a vast improvment. There is also a Chinese shock out there
>>> that
>>> >> > is
>>> >> > cheap, but raises the back end of the bike up, and don't work very
>>> well.
>>> >> > I
>>> >> > can live with the things that kind of bug me about this bike accept
>>> the
>>> >> > harsh ride. It's killing my back. Soooo, if any of you guys have
>>> spent
>>> >> > the
>>> >> > big bucks on the Progressives please come forth, spill the beans and
>>> >> > share
>>> >> > with us what you have done and did it really work? I too ride single
>>> up
>>> >> > and
>>> >> > just want  a decent ride. Hondo.
>>> >>
>>> >> > On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 9:37 PM, Javier Garcia <[email protected]>
>>> >> > wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> >> I'll try to get one too. Nevertheless, I doubt the problem I am
>>> >> >> experiencing is going to be solved by changing the adjustment of
>>> the
>>> >> >> shocks.
>>> >>
>>> >> >> Javier.
>>> >>
>>> >> >> On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 12:49 PM, sfox618 <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> >>> I bought a shock tool on eBay for about $6.  Just like item number
>>> >> >>> Item number: 310223404095.  Works really well and no scratches.
>>> >>
>>> >> >>> Sean
>>> >>
>>> >> >>> On Jun 2, 9:05 am, Javier Garcia <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> >> >>> > Hi all,
>>> >>
>>> >> >>> > recently I've been wondering if there is something wrong with
>>> the
>>> >> >>> suspension
>>> >> >>> > of my '96 750. In short, it just feels like it balances too much
>>> up
>>> >> >>> > and
>>> >> >>> down
>>> >> >>> > in the rear as I am driving it. Actually, I am not sure if it is
>>> >> >>> because I
>>> >> >>> > am paying too much attention to this or not, but lately I've
>>> been
>>> >> >>> feeling
>>> >> >>> > that my back hearts a bit after long rides (long being more than
>>> an
>>> >> >>> hour or
>>> >> >>> > so). Allen drove my bike the other day for a bit I had the same
>>> >> >>> impression
>>> >> >>> > (without me telling him before). Therefore, it start crossing my
>>> >> >>> > mind
>>> >> >>> the
>>> >> >>> > idea of upgrading the rear suspension (and probably the front
>>> too,
>>> >> >>> > but
>>> >> >>> that
>>> >> >>> > is a separate issue). Apparently, most people agree that
>>> progressive
>>> >> >>> shocks
>>> >> >>> > is the way to go. However, those are not cheap, so I have few
>>> >> >>> questions,
>>> >> >>> > such as:
>>> >>
>>> >> >>> > 1) How can I actually now if my rear shocks are damaged? Is
>>> there a
>>> >> >>> more
>>> >> >>> > technical procedure to diagnostic this?
>>> >>
>>> >> >>> > 2) If I replace shocks, do I have to replace springs too? or it
>>> is
>>> >> >>> > just
>>> >> >>> > recommended?
>>> >>
>>> >> >>> > 3) Does anyone here uses or had used progressive shocks (and/or
>>> >> >>> springs)?
>>> >>
>>> >> >>> > 4) Is there a particular model of progressive shocks and/or
>>> spring
>>> >> >>> > that
>>> >> >>> need
>>> >> >>> > to be selected for a NH 750? There are few models, and although
>>> the
>>> >> >>> > differences in the specifications are confusing to me, the
>>> >> >>> > differences
>>> >> >>> in
>>> >> >>> > price are quite substantial.
>>> >>
>>> >> >>> > I would appreciate any other comments on this matter.
>>> >> >>> > Cheers,
>>> >>
>>> >> >>> > Javier.
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