Javier, if your seals aren't leaking - don't replace them. You have new ones on hand when they do.

On Jun 9, 2010, at 5:56 PM, Javier Garcia wrote:

Graham,
wise man you are. I definitely understand the point now. I though I would have to take the seals out to replace the springs. I did buy the seals already, and I have them at home. I will decide what to do later, probably after discussing it with Allen who offered his help, but it is good to know I can just replace the springs without taking the whole thing apart.

Javier.


On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 4:39 PM, Graham Rogers <[email protected]> wrote: Javier, I think the point is, replacing your springs is just a matter of undoing the top nut on your forks, pulling out the old springs and popping in the new ones. replacing the seals requires removing your forks completely out of the frame, taking them apart, etc. The two jobs aren't really related time or workwise. Replacing the springs doesn't get you half way to replacing the seals. It's almost like saying you may as well replace your front tire while you're replacing your speedometer cable. It might be a good idea to replace your tire but replacing your cable doesn't get you half way to replacing a tire work and time wise. Follow?
Graham

On Jun 9, 2010, at 2:43 PM, Javier Garcia wrote:


Even a particular part is not broken or wear out, if I can replace it cheap I will tent to do so. I just call a local honda dealer and they have the seals for $26. I see no reason in spending $70 for the springs, taking the whole thing apart and not replace the seals to save 26 bucks. They also have the fork oil so I guess I'll get that too at the same place today.

Javier.

On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 10:41 AM, Allen Thomas <[email protected]> wrote:
True you don't NEED to replace the seals but think of it this way. If
you dust seals are 18 years old then they are probably dry rotted and
since I know you ride in the rain water gets past them. This rusts the
fork tube which destroys the seal. So if you have old seals you
probably would want to do the job right to prevent fork tube damage.
But hats just me. As for ATF instead of fork oil... Well it's you butt
riding it. Why would the manufacturer invent an oil when there is a
commonly availabe standard that met the need?

On 6/9/10, Anthony <[email protected]> wrote:
> Javier,
>
> You do not need to replace the seals when you replace the springs.. I
> installed progressive springs last year and did it with the forks
> still installed on the bike.  I needed to do some trigonometry to
> calculate the oil level since the forks were on an angle and not
> vertical as they should be when measuring the oil level. The cap on > each fork tube comes off. You will need a 17mm hex socket for that.
> I used ATF in my forks.  It is approx 10 wt.
>
> On Jun 8, 1:22 pm, Javier Garcia <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Well, apparently nobody has done the modification of the shocks. I have >> decided to do so. Last night I ordered a pair of progressive shocks and >> springs, model 412. I also ordered the progressive spring for the front. I >> assume I will need new fork seals and oil? can anyone tell me which ones I
>> am supposed to buy and where?
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Javier.
>>
>> On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 9:10 AM, Javier Garcia <[email protected]> wrote: >> > Randy wrote this, but I guess he made a mistake and send it only to me.
>> > So
>> > here it is.
>> > Javier.
>>
>> > Randy Kilpatrick <[email protected]>
>>
>> > Javier, I read with interest your questions about the rear shocks. I
>> > have a
>> > 91 750 N.H. The front suspension is fine, but the rear of the bike rides
>> > like a jackhammer!
>> > Here is kind of what is going on. When Honda reintroduced the CB 750 N. >> > Hawk they cut a lot of corners to keep the price down. Things like no
>> > center
>> > stand, no 6 speed transmission, and among other things especially the
>> > rear
>> > shocks. These stock rear shocks are as inexpensive as Honda could find. >> > They were only fair for a few thousand miles, then the gas leaked out,
>> > the
>> > oil weeped out and we have a pair of shot shocks! I too have been
>> > looking at
>> > the Progressive Shocks, but man what a price! I read on one site where
>> > some
>> > one bought the lower priced Progressives and they wern"t much beter than >> > stock stuff. I also read where one guy bought the expensive rear shocks
>> > and
>> > it was a vast improvment. There is also a Chinese shock out there that
>> > is
>> > cheap, but raises the back end of the bike up, and don't work very well.
>> > I
>> > can live with the things that kind of bug me about this bike accept the >> > harsh ride. It's killing my back. Soooo, if any of you guys have spent
>> > the
>> > big bucks on the Progressives please come forth, spill the beans and
>> > share
>> > with us what you have done and did it really work? I too ride single up
>> > and
>> > just want  a decent ride. Hondo.
>>
>> > On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 9:37 PM, Javier Garcia <[email protected]>
>> > wrote:
>>
>> >> I'll try to get one too. Nevertheless, I doubt the problem I am
>> >> experiencing is going to be solved by changing the adjustment of the
>> >> shocks.
>>
>> >> Javier.
>>
>> >> On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 12:49 PM, sfox618 <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> >>> I bought a shock tool on eBay for about $6. Just like item number >> >>> Item number: 310223404095. Works really well and no scratches.
>>
>> >>> Sean
>>
>> >>> On Jun 2, 9:05 am, Javier Garcia <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >>> > Hi all,
>>
>> >>> > recently I've been wondering if there is something wrong with the
>> >>> suspension
>> >>> > of my '96 750. In short, it just feels like it balances too much up
>> >>> > and
>> >>> down
>> >>> > in the rear as I am driving it. Actually, I am not sure if it is
>> >>> because I
>> >>> > am paying too much attention to this or not, but lately I've been
>> >>> feeling
>> >>> > that my back hearts a bit after long rides (long being more than an
>> >>> hour or
>> >>> > so). Allen drove my bike the other day for a bit I had the same
>> >>> impression
>> >>> > (without me telling him before). Therefore, it start crossing my
>> >>> > mind
>> >>> the
>> >>> > idea of upgrading the rear suspension (and probably the front too,
>> >>> > but
>> >>> that
>> >>> > is a separate issue). Apparently, most people agree that progressive
>> >>> shocks
>> >>> > is the way to go. However, those are not cheap, so I have few
>> >>> questions,
>> >>> > such as:
>>
>> >>> > 1) How can I actually now if my rear shocks are damaged? Is there a
>> >>> more
>> >>> > technical procedure to diagnostic this?
>>
>> >>> > 2) If I replace shocks, do I have to replace springs too? or it is
>> >>> > just
>> >>> > recommended?
>>
>> >>> > 3) Does anyone here uses or had used progressive shocks (and/or
>> >>> springs)?
>>
>> >>> > 4) Is there a particular model of progressive shocks and/ or spring
>> >>> > that
>> >>> need
>> >>> > to be selected for a NH 750? There are few models, and although the
>> >>> > differences in the specifications are confusing to me, the
>> >>> > differences
>> >>> in
>> >>> > price are quite substantial.
>>
>> >>> > I would appreciate any other comments on this matter.
>> >>> > Cheers,
>>
>> >>> > Javier.
>>
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