Greenzero, I'd like to put a face to a name too. Javier, I won't be able to help you till next weekend. So, if you just swap out the springs it looks like the only tricky part is re-filling the forks. As for the seal replacement I defer to the greater wisdom. I'm a perfectionist when it comes to thing like this. I plan on replacing my seals and dry rotted dust seals simply because the are cheap and the labor is free. Spend a little money now to prevent replacing the fork tubes later. If you want I'll buy them from you. I'd rather not have you feel that I gave you bad advice, that cost you money.
On 6/9/10, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote: > That sounds like a plan that I could agree with.... Goes with the idea > of "if it ain't broke don't fix it".... Keep them handy.... Btw I will > be going "home" the end of next month... I will be leaving the bike in > Florida, but anybody in the b-more/ dc area want to hang out I would > love to meet fellow nighthawkers... But you would have to come to > bowie to meet > > Sent from my iPod > > On Jun 9, 2010, at 6:04 PM, Graham Rogers <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Javier, if your seals aren't leaking - don't replace them. You >> have new ones on hand when they do. >> >> On Jun 9, 2010, at 5:56 PM, Javier Garcia wrote: >> >>> Graham, >>> wise man you are. I definitely understand the point now. I though I >>> would have to take the seals out to replace the springs. I did buy >>> the seals already, and I have them at home. I will decide what to >>> do later, probably after discussing it with Allen who offered his >>> help, but it is good to know I can just replace the springs without >>> taking the whole thing apart. >>> >>> Javier. >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 4:39 PM, Graham Rogers <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> Javier, I think the point is, replacing your springs is just a >>> matter of undoing the top nut on your forks, pulling out the old >>> springs and popping in the new ones. replacing the seals requires >>> removing your forks completely out of the frame, taking them apart, >>> etc. The two jobs aren't really related time or workwise. >>> Replacing the springs doesn't get you half way to replacing the >>> seals. It's almost like saying you may as well replace your front >>> tire while you're replacing your speedometer cable. It might be a >>> good idea to replace your tire but replacing your cable doesn't get >>> you half way to replacing a tire work and time wise. Follow? >>> Graham >>> >>> On Jun 9, 2010, at 2:43 PM, Javier Garcia wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> Even a particular part is not broken or wear out, if I can replace >>>> it cheap I will tent to do so. I just call a local honda dealer >>>> and they have the seals for $26. I see no reason in spending $70 >>>> for the springs, taking the whole thing apart and not replace the >>>> seals to save 26 bucks. They also have the fork oil so I guess >>>> I'll get that too at the same place today. >>>> >>>> Javier. >>>> >>>> On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 10:41 AM, Allen Thomas >>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> True you don't NEED to replace the seals but think of it this way. >>>> If >>>> you dust seals are 18 years old then they are probably dry rotted >>>> and >>>> since I know you ride in the rain water gets past them. This rusts >>>> the >>>> fork tube which destroys the seal. So if you have old seals you >>>> probably would want to do the job right to prevent fork tube damage. >>>> But hats just me. As for ATF instead of fork oil... Well it's you >>>> butt >>>> riding it. Why would the manufacturer invent an oil when there is a >>>> commonly availabe standard that met the need? >>>> >>>> On 6/9/10, Anthony <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> > Javier, >>>> > >>>> > You do not need to replace the seals when you replace the >>>> springs.. I >>>> > installed progressive springs last year and did it with the forks >>>> > still installed on the bike. I needed to do some trigonometry to >>>> > calculate the oil level since the forks were on an angle and not >>>> > vertical as they should be when measuring the oil level. The >>>> cap on >>>> > each fork tube comes off. You will need a 17mm hex socket for >>>> that. >>>> > I used ATF in my forks. It is approx 10 wt. >>>> > >>>> > On Jun 8, 1:22 pm, Javier Garcia <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >> Well, apparently nobody has done the modification of the >>>> shocks. I have >>>> >> decided to do so. Last night I ordered a pair of progressive >>>> shocks and >>>> >> springs, model 412. I also ordered the progressive spring for >>>> the front. I >>>> >> assume I will need new fork seals and oil? can anyone tell me >>>> which ones I >>>> >> am supposed to buy and where? >>>> >> Thanks, >>>> >> >>>> >> Javier. >>>> >> >>>> >> On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 9:10 AM, Javier Garcia >>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >> > Randy wrote this, but I guess he made a mistake and send it >>>> only to me. >>>> >> > So >>>> >> > here it is. >>>> >> > Javier. >>>> >> >>>> >> > Randy Kilpatrick <[email protected]> >>>> >> >>>> >> > Javier, I read with interest your questions about the rear >>>> shocks. I >>>> >> > have a >>>> >> > 91 750 N.H. The front suspension is fine, but the rear of the >>>> bike rides >>>> >> > like a jackhammer! >>>> >> > Here is kind of what is going on. When Honda reintroduced the >>>> CB 750 N. >>>> >> > Hawk they cut a lot of corners to keep the price down. Things >>>> like no >>>> >> > center >>>> >> > stand, no 6 speed transmission, and among other things >>>> especially the >>>> >> > rear >>>> >> > shocks. These stock rear shocks are as inexpensive as Honda >>>> could find. >>>> >> > They were only fair for a few thousand miles, then the gas >>>> leaked out, >>>> >> > the >>>> >> > oil weeped out and we have a pair of shot shocks! I too have >>>> been >>>> >> > looking at >>>> >> > the Progressive Shocks, but man what a price! I read on one >>>> site where >>>> >> > some >>>> >> > one bought the lower priced Progressives and they wern"t much >>>> beter than >>>> >> > stock stuff. I also read where one guy bought the expensive >>>> rear shocks >>>> >> > and >>>> >> > it was a vast improvment. There is also a Chinese shock out >>>> there that >>>> >> > is >>>> >> > cheap, but raises the back end of the bike up, and don't work >>>> very well. >>>> >> > I >>>> >> > can live with the things that kind of bug me about this bike >>>> accept the >>>> >> > harsh ride. It's killing my back. Soooo, if any of you guys >>>> have spent >>>> >> > the >>>> >> > big bucks on the Progressives please come forth, spill the >>>> beans and >>>> >> > share >>>> >> > with us what you have done and did it really work? I too ride >>>> single up >>>> >> > and >>>> >> > just want a decent ride. Hondo. >>>> >> >>>> >> > On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 9:37 PM, Javier Garcia >>>> <[email protected]> >>>> >> > wrote: >>>> >> >>>> >> >> I'll try to get one too. Nevertheless, I doubt the problem I >>>> am >>>> >> >> experiencing is going to be solved by changing the >>>> adjustment of the >>>> >> >> shocks. >>>> >> >>>> >> >> Javier. >>>> >> >>>> >> >> On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 12:49 PM, sfox618 <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >> >>>> >> >>> I bought a shock tool on eBay for about $6. Just like item >>>> number >>>> >> >>> Item number: 310223404095. Works really well and no >>>> scratches. >>>> >> >>>> >> >>> Sean >>>> >> >>>> >> >>> On Jun 2, 9:05 am, Javier Garcia <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >> >>> > Hi all, >>>> >> >>>> >> >>> > recently I've been wondering if there is something wrong >>>> with the >>>> >> >>> suspension >>>> >> >>> > of my '96 750. In short, it just feels like it balances >>>> too much up >>>> >> >>> > and >>>> >> >>> down >>>> >> >>> > in the rear as I am driving it. Actually, I am not sure >>>> if it is >>>> >> >>> because I >>>> >> >>> > am paying too much attention to this or not, but lately >>>> I've been >>>> >> >>> feeling >>>> >> >>> > that my back hearts a bit after long rides (long being >>>> more than an >>>> >> >>> hour or >>>> >> >>> > so). Allen drove my bike the other day for a bit I had >>>> the same >>>> >> >>> impression >>>> >> >>> > (without me telling him before). Therefore, it start >>>> crossing my >>>> >> >>> > mind >>>> >> >>> the >>>> >> >>> > idea of upgrading the rear suspension (and probably the >>>> front too, >>>> >> >>> > but >>>> >> >>> that >>>> >> >>> > is a separate issue). Apparently, most people agree that >>>> progressive >>>> >> >>> shocks >>>> >> >>> > is the way to go. However, those are not cheap, so I have >>>> few >>>> >> >>> questions, >>>> >> >>> > such as: >>>> >> >>>> >> >>> > 1) How can I actually now if my rear shocks are damaged? >>>> Is there a >>>> >> >>> more >>>> >> >>> > technical procedure to diagnostic this? >>>> >> >>>> >> >>> > 2) If I replace shocks, do I have to replace springs too? >>>> or it is >>>> >> >>> > just >>>> >> >>> > recommended? >>>> >> >>>> >> >>> > 3) Does anyone here uses or had used progressive shocks >>>> (and/or >>>> >> >>> springs)? >>>> >> >>>> >> >>> > 4) Is there a particular model of progressive shocks and/ >>>> or spring >>>> >> >>> > that >>>> >> >>> need >>>> >> >>> > to be selected for a NH 750? There are few models, and >>>> although the >>>> >> >>> > differences in the specifications are confusing to me, the >>>> >> >>> > differences >>>> >> >>> in >>>> >> >>> > price are quite substantial. >>>> >> >>>> >> >>> > I would appreciate any other comments on this matter. >>>> >> >>> > Cheers, >>>> >> >>>> >> >>> > Javier. >>>> >> >>>> >> >>> -- >>>> >> >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the >>>> Google >>>> >> >>> Groups >>>> >> >>> "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. >>>> >> >>> To post to this group, send email to >>>> >> >>> [email protected]. >>>> >> >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> >> >>> nighthawk_lovers >>>> [email protected]<nighthawk_lovers >>>> %[email protected]> >>>> >> >>> . >>>> >> >>> For more options, visit this group at >>>> >> >>>http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. >>>> > >>>> > -- >>>> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the >>>> Google Groups >>>> > "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. >>>> > To post to this group, send email to [email protected] >>>> > >>>> . >>>> > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> > [email protected]. >>>> > For more options, visit this group at >>>> > http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. >>>> > >>>> > >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Sent from my mobile device >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. >>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected] >>>> . >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> [email protected] >>>> . >>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en >>>> . >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. >>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected] >>>> . >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> [email protected] >>>> . >>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en >>>> . >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected] >>> . >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> [email protected] >>> . >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en >>> . >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected] >>> . >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> [email protected] >>> . >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en >>> . >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. >> To post to this group, send email to >> [email protected]. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected] >> . >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en >> . > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. > > -- Sent from my mobile device -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. 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