On Sunday, September 30, 2012 at 1:32 PM, Gerald Klein wrote:

> I myself only from the seventies and more into the eighties in a practical 
> way. Accept my apologies but the comment before you was a bit harsh and I was 
> already annoyed. 
> 


I wasn't being negative, I was identifying exactly what it would take to 
interest me. As an engineer, I want to know how things work... I guess I 
wrongly assumed that this list was for engineers that liked to make things or 
learn how things work. That's why I said "speaking for most", thanks for 
correcting me there, I won't make the mistake again.


Rick
 
> I have never found negative comments to be helpful, I also don't assume that 
> I can see the direction that something will take. What I know is that it is 
> good for people to be creative whatever that form takes. He is putting is 
> ideas out there which is more then most people will ever do. I applaud any 
> effort by a person putting out their own ideas out there for everyone to see 
> and I hope he continues to do it and he gets to where he's going, I hope 
> someday he makes millions from it. I would applaud again. 
> 
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> On Sun, Sep 30, 2012 at 12:10 PM, Mark Hahn <m...@hahnca.com 
> (mailto:m...@hahnca.com)> wrote:
> > > This is also to say that from this may come something interesting 
> > 
> > That would be great and I certainly don't want to dampen any enthusiasm.  
> > I'm just giving my opinion as a potential user.
> > 
> > To journey to a great new place, it would seem to be easier to start from 
> > somewhere modern instead of something old and moldy.  I have been using 
> > computers since the mid '60s and witnessed many metaphors come and go.  I 
> > for one would be happy to get rid of the desktop.  Most users nowadays grew 
> > up with the web, so it is a metaphor that they are at least as familiar 
> > with as the desktop. 
> > 
> > Maybe a glimpse into the future of the desktop could prove me wrong.  Where 
> > can it go from here?
> > 
> > On Sun, Sep 30, 2012 at 9:59 AM, Gerald Klein <j...@zognet.com 
> > (mailto:j...@zognet.com)> wrote:
> > > The point I think he is making is that some derivative of a familiar 
> > > metaphor will help people grab on to the functionality or feel more at 
> > > home. This ia also to say that from this may come something interesting 
> > > after iteration(x) that is created.
> > > 
> > > On Sun, Sep 30, 2012 at 11:50 AM, Mark Hahn <m...@hahnca.com 
> > > (mailto:m...@hahnca.com)> wrote:
> > > > I know that this is a popular thing to do, but I don't understand it.  
> > > > Why would you want to put a metaphor that dates from 30 years ago on a 
> > > > modern brower?  I find the hyperlinked documents on the web with 
> > > > responsive web pages to be a better experience.  
> > > > 
> > > > Google is working hard to replace the old Microsoft functionality with 
> > > > gmail and google docs, yet you don't find Google using a desktop 
> > > > metaphor with folders and trash cans.  Apps don't spring up from icons 
> > > > into desktop windows, they appear as web pages from web links.
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > On Sun, Sep 30, 2012 at 7:53 AM, Rick Waldron <waldron.r...@gmail.com 
> > > > (mailto:waldron.r...@gmail.com)> wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > > On Sep 30, 2012 10:35 AM, "Dennis Kane" <dkan...@gmail.com 
> > > > > (mailto:dkan...@gmail.com)> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > My most recent work can be seen here: 
> > > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-NTjmy7PbD0
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I have added functionality to the bottom dock, including a working 
> > > > > > Trashcan.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I have still received precisely zero real interest in any of this & 
> > > > > > I am really eager to get together with programmers who want to get 
> > > > > > something beautiful started!
> > > > > I think I speak for most when I say: you've given us nothing to be 
> > > > > interested in, aside from a few YouTube videos and some hints about 
> > > > > an API that, to be honest, looks nothing like a well designed 
> > > > > JavaScript API. 
> > > > > Share some code ;) 
> > > > > Rick 
> > > > > >
> > > > > > My theory is basically that the nature of the front-end experience 
> > > > > > crucially determines how much "excitement" the back-end 
> > > > > > administrators will have.  At the moment, the web is filled with 
> > > > > > absolutely boring/unresponsive front-ends.  So anyone who wants to 
> > > > > > work with me will really have a leg up in terms of offering the 
> > > > > > kind of user experience that will keep the back-enders on their 
> > > > > > toes ("on their toes" == "gamefully employed" ;)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > By the way, I am well aware that any business that comes out of 
> > > > > > this will not want to offer an exact replica of OS X as their front 
> > > > > > end.  I am using OS X as the ultimate challenge to see how awesome 
> > > > > > I can make the end user experience.  Once I can get this prototype 
> > > > > > working as well as possible, then I can start to think about how to 
> > > > > > make it even better than OS X!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I am all ears in terms of what kinds of services can be offered up 
> > > > > > through this kind of interface...
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