On Sunday, September 30, 2012 at 2:17 PM, Gerald Klein wrote:
> The term constructive criticism which is always welcome innately suggests > that there is a better alternative idea or path that could be taken. Now > logic would also suggest that the person making this criticism have at least > an inkling of what that might be. I've been really patient with your aggro commentary, but it's clear to me that you're not reading my responses in their entirety. 1. I'm definitely interested in the OPs project. 2. YouTube videos do not satisfy my interests as a programmer and software engineer. 3. I want to see some code, that will be exciting Hopefully I've made myself perfectly clear this time. Rick > > On Sun, Sep 30, 2012 at 1:08 PM, Rick Waldron <waldron.r...@gmail.com > (mailto:waldron.r...@gmail.com)> wrote: > > > > > > On Sunday, September 30, 2012 at 1:55 PM, Mark Hahn wrote: > > > > > > I have never found negative comments to be helpful, > > > > > > I respectfully disagree. Informed opinions should be welcome here. > > > > +1 Informed and critical opinions are necessary for broader growth > > > > > > > > > On Sun, Sep 30, 2012 at 10:32 AM, Gerald Klein <j...@zognet.com > > > (mailto:j...@zognet.com)> wrote: > > > > I myself only from the seventies and more into the eighties in a > > > > practical way. Accept my apologies but the comment before you was a bit > > > > harsh and I was already annoyed. I have never found negative comments > > > > to be helpful, I also don't assume that I can see the direction that > > > > something will take. What I know is that it is good for people to be > > > > creative whatever that form takes. He is putting is ideas out there > > > > which is more then most people will ever do. I applaud any effort by a > > > > person putting out their own ideas out there for everyone to see and I > > > > hope he continues to do it and he gets to where he's going, I hope > > > > someday he makes millions from it. I would applaud again. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sun, Sep 30, 2012 at 12:10 PM, Mark Hahn <m...@hahnca.com > > > > (mailto:m...@hahnca.com)> wrote: > > > > > > This is also to say that from this may come something interesting > > > > > > > > > > That would be great and I certainly don't want to dampen any > > > > > enthusiasm. I'm just giving my opinion as a potential user. > > > > > > > > > > To journey to a great new place, it would seem to be easier to start > > > > > from somewhere modern instead of something old and moldy. I have > > > > > been using computers since the mid '60s and witnessed many metaphors > > > > > come and go. I for one would be happy to get rid of the desktop. > > > > > Most users nowadays grew up with the web, so it is a metaphor that > > > > > they are at least as familiar with as the desktop. > > > > > > > > > > Maybe a glimpse into the future of the desktop could prove me wrong. > > > > > Where can it go from here? > > > > > > > > > > On Sun, Sep 30, 2012 at 9:59 AM, Gerald Klein <j...@zognet.com > > > > > (mailto:j...@zognet.com)> wrote: > > > > > > The point I think he is making is that some derivative of a > > > > > > familiar metaphor will help people grab on to the functionality or > > > > > > feel more at home. This ia also to say that from this may come > > > > > > something interesting after iteration(x) that is created. > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sun, Sep 30, 2012 at 11:50 AM, Mark Hahn <m...@hahnca.com > > > > > > (mailto:m...@hahnca.com)> wrote: > > > > > > > I know that this is a popular thing to do, but I don't understand > > > > > > > it. Why would you want to put a metaphor that dates from 30 > > > > > > > years ago on a modern brower? I find the hyperlinked documents > > > > > > > on the web with responsive web pages to be a better experience. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Google is working hard to replace the old Microsoft functionality > > > > > > > with gmail and google docs, yet you don't find Google using a > > > > > > > desktop metaphor with folders and trash cans. Apps don't spring > > > > > > > up from icons into desktop windows, they appear as web pages from > > > > > > > web links. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sun, Sep 30, 2012 at 7:53 AM, Rick Waldron > > > > > > > <waldron.r...@gmail.com (mailto:waldron.r...@gmail.com)> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sep 30, 2012 10:35 AM, "Dennis Kane" <dkan...@gmail.com > > > > > > > > (mailto:dkan...@gmail.com)> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My most recent work can be seen here: > > > > > > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-NTjmy7PbD0 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have added functionality to the bottom dock, including a > > > > > > > > > working Trashcan. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have still received precisely zero real interest in any of > > > > > > > > > this & I am really eager to get together with programmers who > > > > > > > > > want to get something beautiful started! > > > > > > > > I think I speak for most when I say: you've given us nothing to > > > > > > > > be interested in, aside from a few YouTube videos and some > > > > > > > > hints about an API that, to be honest, looks nothing like a > > > > > > > > well designed JavaScript API. > > > > > > > > Share some code ;) > > > > > > > > Rick > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My theory is basically that the nature of the front-end > > > > > > > > > experience crucially determines how much "excitement" the > > > > > > > > > back-end administrators will have. At the moment, the web is > > > > > > > > > filled with absolutely boring/unresponsive front-ends. So > > > > > > > > > anyone who wants to work with me will really have a leg up in > > > > > > > > > terms of offering the kind of user experience that will keep > > > > > > > > > the back-enders on their toes ("on their toes" == "gamefully > > > > > > > > > employed" ;) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > By the way, I am well aware that any business that comes out > > > > > > > > > of this will not want to offer an exact replica of OS X as > > > > > > > > > their front end. I am using OS X as the ultimate challenge > > > > > > > > > to see how awesome I can make the end user experience. Once > > > > > > > > > I can get this prototype working as well as possible, then I > > > > > > > > > can start to think about how to make it even better than OS X! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am all ears in terms of what kinds of services can be > > > > > > > > > offered up through this kind of interface... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > Job Board: http://jobs.nodejs.org/ > > > > > > > > > Posting guidelines: > > > > > > > > > https://github.com/joyent/node/wiki/Mailing-List-Posting-Guidelines > > > > > > > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the > > > > > > > > > Google > > > > > > > > > Groups "nodejs" group. > > > > > > > > > To post to this group, send email to nodejs@googlegroups.com > > > > > > > > > (mailto:nodejs@googlegroups.com) > > > > > > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > > > > > > > > nodejs+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > > > > > > > > > (mailto:nodejs%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com) > > > > 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