Once again Mark my responses have not been about you, you have acquitted your self as quite reasonable.
On Sun, Sep 30, 2012 at 1:21 PM, Mark Hahn <m...@hahnca.com> wrote: > > there is a way of presenting them > > Yes. Civility is to be expected. > > > if you have a negative I would assume you must have a positive to > supplant it. > > Huh? I have what I have. This isn't a debate, it's just me giving my > opinion. > > > On Sun, Sep 30, 2012 at 11:01 AM, Gerald Klein <j...@zognet.com> wrote: > >> I agree but there is a way of presenting them, further if you have a >> negative I would assume you must have a positive to supplant it. >> >> >> >> On Sun, Sep 30, 2012 at 12:55 PM, Mark Hahn <m...@hahnca.com> wrote: >> >>> > I have never found negative comments to be helpful, >>> >>> I respectfully disagree. Informed opinions should be welcome here. >>> >>> >>> On Sun, Sep 30, 2012 at 10:32 AM, Gerald Klein <j...@zognet.com> wrote: >>> >>>> I myself only from the seventies and more into the eighties in a >>>> practical way. Accept my apologies but the comment before you was a bit >>>> harsh and I was already annoyed. I have never found negative comments to be >>>> helpful, I also don't assume that I can see the direction that something >>>> will take. What I know is that it is good for people to be creative >>>> whatever that form takes. He is putting is ideas out there which is more >>>> then most people will ever do. I applaud any effort by a person putting out >>>> their own ideas out there for everyone to see and I hope he continues to do >>>> it and he gets to where he's going, I hope someday he makes millions from >>>> it. I would applaud again. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sun, Sep 30, 2012 at 12:10 PM, Mark Hahn <m...@hahnca.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> > This is also to say that from this may come something interesting >>>>> >>>>> That would be great and I certainly don't want to dampen any >>>>> enthusiasm. I'm just giving my opinion as a potential user. >>>>> >>>>> To journey to a great new place, it would seem to be easier to start >>>>> from somewhere modern instead of something old and moldy. I have been >>>>> using computers since the mid '60s and witnessed many metaphors come and >>>>> go. I for one would be happy to get rid of the desktop. Most users >>>>> nowadays grew up with the web, so it is a metaphor that they are at least >>>>> as familiar with as the desktop. >>>>> >>>>> Maybe a glimpse into the future of the desktop could prove me wrong. >>>>> Where can it go from here? >>>>> >>>>> On Sun, Sep 30, 2012 at 9:59 AM, Gerald Klein <j...@zognet.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> The point I think he is making is that some derivative of a >>>>>> familiar metaphor will help people grab on to the functionality or feel >>>>>> more at home. This ia also to say that from this may come something >>>>>> interesting after iteration(x) that is created. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Sun, Sep 30, 2012 at 11:50 AM, Mark Hahn <m...@hahnca.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> I know that this is a popular thing to do, but I don't understand >>>>>>> it. Why would you want to put a metaphor that dates from 30 years ago >>>>>>> on a >>>>>>> modern brower? I find the hyperlinked documents on the web with >>>>>>> responsive >>>>>>> web pages to be a better experience. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Google is working hard to replace the old Microsoft functionality >>>>>>> with gmail and google docs, yet you don't find Google using a desktop >>>>>>> metaphor with folders and trash cans. Apps don't spring up from icons >>>>>>> into >>>>>>> desktop windows, they appear as web pages from web links. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Sun, Sep 30, 2012 at 7:53 AM, Rick Waldron < >>>>>>> waldron.r...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Sep 30, 2012 10:35 AM, "Dennis Kane" <dkan...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > My most recent work can be seen here: >>>>>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-NTjmy7PbD0 >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > I have added functionality to the bottom dock, including a >>>>>>>> working Trashcan. >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > I have still received precisely zero real interest in any of this >>>>>>>> & I am really eager to get together with programmers who want to get >>>>>>>> something beautiful started! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I think I speak for most when I say: you've given us nothing to be >>>>>>>> interested in, aside from a few YouTube videos and some hints about an >>>>>>>> API >>>>>>>> that, to be honest, looks nothing like a well designed JavaScript API. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Share some code ;) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Rick >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > My theory is basically that the nature of the front-end >>>>>>>> experience crucially determines how much "excitement" the back-end >>>>>>>> administrators will have. At the moment, the web is filled with >>>>>>>> absolutely >>>>>>>> boring/unresponsive front-ends. So anyone who wants to work with me >>>>>>>> will >>>>>>>> really have a leg up in terms of offering the kind of user experience >>>>>>>> that >>>>>>>> will keep the back-enders on their toes ("on their toes" == "gamefully >>>>>>>> employed" ;) >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > By the way, I am well aware that any business that comes out of >>>>>>>> this will not want to offer an exact replica of OS X as their front >>>>>>>> end. I >>>>>>>> am using OS X as the ultimate challenge to see how awesome I can make >>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>> end user experience. Once I can get this prototype working as well as >>>>>>>> possible, then I can start to think about how to make it even better >>>>>>>> than >>>>>>>> OS X! >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > I am all ears in terms of what kinds of services can be offered >>>>>>>> up through this kind of interface... >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > -- >>>>>>>> > Job Board: http://jobs.nodejs.org/ >>>>>>>> > Posting guidelines: >>>>>>>> https://github.com/joyent/node/wiki/Mailing-List-Posting-Guidelines >>>>>>>> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>>> > Groups "nodejs" group. >>>>>>>> > To post to this group, send email to nodejs@googlegroups.com >>>>>>>> > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>>>>> > nodejs+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com >>>>>>>> > For more options, visit this group at >>>>>>>> > http://groups.google.com/group/nodejs?hl=en?hl=en >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> Job Board: http://jobs.nodejs.org/ >>>>>>>> Posting guidelines: >>>>>>>> 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